[digiKam-users] Digikam keeps ignoring my ignored tags

Thomas D sdktda at gmail.com
Sun Aug 22 20:54:51 BST 2021 

So maybe I misunderstood.
Are you saying that pressing "-" on a face causes it to be ignored?
I thought that mean that "this face does not belong to the matched person".
Meaning that this face will now be put into the "Unknown" pile. So the user
will then have to go into the Unknown pile and find this  person once again
and click "-".

Am I wrong in this understanding?

Because I read your most recent reply as it being enough to click "-" once.
But if this is the case, then how do you mark a matched face as "this
*match* is wrong. The person is or might be interesting (so not to be  put
in Ignored) but this match is not right"?



Den søn. 22. aug. 2021 kl. 21.48 skrev Maik Qualmann <metzpinguin at gmail.com
>:

> The tags "Unconfirmed", "Unknown" and "Ignored" are tags of the face
> engine in
> order to filter / display the faces in the People View accordingly. See
> these
> tags as placeholders in the People Treeview, they are automatically sorted
> upwards. So these tags are "virtual", why would anyone want to add these
> tags
> to their images in real life? It is of course possible.
> Ignoring a face in the People View with the "-" button is the quick and
> easy
> way.
>
> Maik
>
> Am Sonntag, 22. August 2021, 21:34:07 CEST schrieb Thomas D:
> > One more thing: If the virtual tag "ignored" does nothing, why is it
> there?
> >
> > I mean, this seems to be something that is handled in a certain way by DK
> > differently from the other tags.
> > For example, it has different types of actions in DK as can be seen from
> > this screenshot:
> > [image: image.png]
> >
> > If this is not a special tag with a special meaning that DK should ignore
> > it, why does it exist at all?
> >
> > I am sorry if I misunderstood your original reply.
> >
> > Den søn. 22. aug. 2021 kl. 21.29 skrev Thomas D <sdktda at gmail.com>:
> > > To add to my reply: I think the key point here is: If the user has
> deemed
> > > a face to belong to someone who is ignored. Then the user should have a
> > > quick way of marking this face for as Ignored directly. The user should
> > > not
> > > have to spend time looking at that face again.
> > >
> > > Den søn. 22. aug. 2021 kl. 21.27 skrev Thomas D <sdktda at gmail.com>:
> > >> I am a bit confused here.
> > >>
> > >> Does this mean, that if I go to some Person X and find hundreds of
> faces
> > >> matched incorrectly to this person. Then I deem all these being
> people I
> > >> want to ignore. Then I  have to first 1) click Minus here to unmatch
> them
> > >> to Person X; this will put these faces into the Unknown virtual tag.
> Then
> > >> I
> > >> have to 2) go into the Unknown category and find the same hundreds of
> > >> faces
> > >> (which are not scattered all over the place) and mark them once again
> and
> > >> then click Minus?
> > >>
> > >> Is this really the intended workflow?
> > >>
> > >> If it is, I think it is wasting precious user time and work here in
> the
> > >> the user has to first spend time finding, deciding and marking the
> face
> > >> twice.
> > >>
> > >> Also, I currently have around 1500 photos tagged with "Ignored". How
> can
> > >> I mark all these as something I want to DK to ignore in one go? If I
> > >> select
> > >> all 1500 faces and click Minus. Then they will all go into the big
> bucket
> > >> of Unknown together with almost 10,000 faces of which many are not to
> be
> > >> ignored. Tagging the 1500 faces as ignored was a huge amount of work.
> I
> > >> hope there is a way this is not all lost.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Den søn. 22. aug. 2021 kl. 14.08 skrev Maik Qualmann <
> > >>
> > >> metzpinguin at gmail.com>:
> > >>> Adding the virtual tag "Ignored" does nothing. To ignore a face, you
> > >>> have to
> > >>> click on the "-" button in the face thumbnail under "Unknown" in the
> > >>> People
> > >>> view.
> > >>>
> > >>> Maik
> > >>>
> > >>> Am Sonntag, 22. August 2021, 13:12:27 CEST schrieb Thomas D:
> > >>> > For some reason Digikam seems to not honor my "ignored" tags.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > When I select a face that I do not care about (for example some
> member
> > >>>
> > >>> of a
> > >>>
> > >>> > crowd at a concert, etc.) then I assign it the tag "Ignored".
> > >>> > What happens then is the the face immediately disappears from the
> > >>>
> > >>> view. But
> > >>>
> > >>> > the amount of items in the "Ignored" group does NOT increase.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Next time I run a "Recognize faces" operation the ignored face is
> back
> > >>> > again matched to some bogus person.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Below is the debug output from when I am marking a single face as
> > >>>
> > >>> Ignored.
> > >>>
> > >>> > One thing that jumps out is that there are several "SELECT" SQL
> > >>>
> > >>> statements,
> > >>>
> > >>> > however, there are zero INSERT or UPDATE statements. I would expect
> > >>>
> > >>> digikam
> > >>>
> > >>> > to do at least some write operations to the database in order to
> store
> > >>>
> > >>> my
> > >>>
> > >>> > tag. But it does not seem to do that.
> > >>> > Is anyone else experiencing something similar?
> > >>> > How can I fix this?
> > >>> > Could this in some weird way be related to my locale issues?
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 00000001 0.00000000 [19168] digikam.general: Check for finish:  0
> > >>>
> > >>> packages,
> > >>>
> > >>> > 0 infos to filter, hasFinished() true
> > >>> > 00000002 0.10719850 [19168] digikam.general: Using  12  CPU core to
> > >>> > run
> > >>> > threads
> > >>> > 00000003 0.10781470 [19168] digikam.general: Action Thread run  1
> new
> > >>>
> > >>> jobs
> > >>>
> > >>> > 00000004 0.10841530 [19168] digikam.database: " ( (
> > >>> > (ImageTagProperties.tagid=? OR ImageTagProperties.tagid IN (SELECT
> id
> > >>>
> > >>> FROM
> > >>>
> > >>> > TagsTree WHERE pid=?)) AND ImageTagProperties.property=?  ) OR (
> > >>> > (ImageTagProperties.tagid=? OR ImageTagProperties.tagid IN (SELECT
> id
> > >>>
> > >>> FROM
> > >>>
> > >>> > TagsTree WHERE pid=?)) AND ImageTagProperties.property=?  ) OR (
> > >>> > (ImageTagProperties.tagid=? OR ImageTagProperties.tagid IN (SELECT
> id
> > >>>
> > >>> FROM
> > >>>
> > >>> > TagsTree WHERE pid=?)) AND ImageTagProperties.property=?  ) OR (
> > >>> > (ImageTagProperties.tagid=? OR ImageTagProperties.tagid IN (SELECT
> id
> > >>>
> > >>> FROM
> > >>>
> > >>> > TagsTree WHERE pid=?)) AND ImageTagProperties.property=?  ) ) "
> > >>> > 00000005 0.10849400 [19168] digikam.database: Search query:
> > >>> > 00000006 0.10849400 [19168]  "SELECT DISTINCT Images.id,
> Images.name,
> > >>> > Images.album,        Albums.albumRoot,
> ImageInformation.rating,
> > >>> > Images.category,        ImageInformation.format,
> > >>> > ImageInformation.creationDate,        Images.modificationDate,
> > >>> > Images.fileSize,        ImageInformation.width,
> > >>>
> > >>> ImageInformation.height,
> > >>>
> > >>> >      ImageTagProperties.value, ImageTagProperties.property,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ImageTagProperties.tagid  FROM Images        INNER JOIN
> > >>>
> > >>> ImageTagProperties
> > >>>
> > >>> > ON ImageTagProperties.imageid=Images.id        LEFT JOIN
> > >>>
> > >>> ImageInformation
> > >>>
> > >>> > ON Images.id=ImageInformation.imageid        INNER JOIN Albums
> > >>> >
> > >>>    ON
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Albums.id=Images.album WHERE Images.status=1 AND (  ( (
> > >>> > (ImageTagProperties.tagid=? OR ImageTagProperties.tagid IN (SELECT
> id
> > >>>
> > >>> FROM
> > >>>
> > >>> > TagsTree WHERE pid=?)) AND ImageTagProperties.property=?  ) OR (
> > >>> > (ImageTagProperties.tagid=? OR ImageTagProperties.tagid IN (SELECT
> id
> > >>>
> > >>> FROM
> > >>>
> > >>> > TagsTree WHERE pid=?)) AND ImageTagProperties.property=?  ) OR (
> > >>> > (ImageTagProperties.tagid=? OR ImageTagProperties.tagid IN (SELECT
> id
> > >>>
> > >>> FROM
> > >>>
> > >>> > TagsTree WHERE pid=?)) AND ImageTagProperties.property=?  ) OR (
> > >>> > (ImageTagProperties.tagid=? OR ImageTagProperties.tagid IN (SELECT
> id
> > >>>
> > >>> FROM
> > >>>
> > >>> > TagsTree WHERE pid=?)) AND ImageTagProperties.property=?  ) )  );"
> > >>> > 00000007 0.10849400 [19168]  (QVariant(int, 90), QVariant(int, 90),
> > >>> > QVariant(QString, "autodetectedPerson"), QVariant(int, 90),
> > >>>
> > >>> QVariant(int,
> > >>>
> > >>> > 90), QVariant(QString, "autodetectedFace"), QVariant(int, 90),
> > >>> > QVariant(int, 90), QVariant(QString, "ignoredFace"), QVariant(int,
> > >>> > 90),
> > >>> > QVariant(int, 90), QVariant(QString, "tagRegion"))
> > >>> > 00000008 0.14773540 [19168] digikam.database: Search result: 4367
> > >>> > 00000009 0.17476331 [19168] digikam.general: Cancel Main Thread
> > >>> > 00000010 0.18000311 [19168] digikam.general: One job is done
> > >>> > 00000011 0.18014900 [19168] digikam.general: Cancel Main Thread
> > >>> > 00000012 2.50488997 [19168] digikam.general: Using  12  CPU core to
> > >>> > run
> > >>> > threads
> > >>> > 00000013 2.50501394 [19168] digikam.general: Using  12  CPU core to
> > >>> > run
> > >>> > threads
> > >>> > 00000014 2.50549006 [19168] digikam.general: Action Thread run  1
> new
> > >>>
> > >>> jobs
> > >>>
> > >>> > 00000015 2.50572968 [19168] digikam.general: Action Thread run  1
> new
> > >>>
> > >>> jobs
> > >>>
> > >>> > 00000016 2.55105042 [19168] digikam.general: One job is done
> > >>> > 00000017 2.55105996 [19168] digikam.general: Cancel Main Thread
> > >>> > 00000018 2.62769842 [19168] digikam.general: One job is done
> > >>> > 00000019 2.63544178 [19168] digikam.general: Cancel Main Thread
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Den man. 12. apr. 2021 kl. 12.05 skrev Thomas D <sdktda at gmail.com
> >:
> > >>> > > Follow-up:
> > >>> > > I just tried setting the language to Danish.
> > >>> > > Then restart DK. Then set it back to EN_us. The tags are still
> named
> > >>>
> > >>> with
> > >>>
> > >>> > > way and Ignored images still seems to end up in Ukendt/Unknown.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Den man. 12. apr. 2021 kl. 09.45 skrev Thomas D <
> sdktda at gmail.com>:
> > >>> > >> Hello,
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> I just noticed that when I mark a face as "Ignored", for some
> > >>>
> > >>> reason it
> > >>>
> > >>> > >> ends up in the "Unknown" tag.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> I am guessing that this might somehow be related to
> > >>> > >> translation/localization of tag names. Is this possible?
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> The reason I think this is that some of the built-in tag names
> are
> > >>>
> > >>> in
> > >>>
> > >>> > >> English and others are in Danish  (my local language). But I
> have
> > >>> > >> configured DK to use English UI language. This is rather
> strange.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> Below is screenshot from the People tag list. The two red
> circles
> > >>>
> > >>> are
> > >>>
> > >>> > >> Danish words (Personer=People or Persons; and Ukendt = Unknown)
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> [image: image.png]
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> Is there any way to fix this?
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> I have 1.3k in Ignored so at some point it must have worked.
> Maybe
> > >>>
> > >>> before
> > >>>
> > >>> > >> upgrade to DK 7.2?
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> Den ons. 7. apr. 2021 kl. 10.09 skrev Thomas D <
> sdktda at gmail.com>:
> > >>> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> I am still playing around with DK 7.2 image recognition. It is
> > >>>
> > >>> great
> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> fun.
> > >>> > >>> However, I do experience one really annoying problem: DK keeps
> > >>> > >>> recognizing some random person (that I do not know) as a
> specific
> > >>>
> > >>> person
> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> that I do know and have tagged. So this random person shows up
> in
> > >>> > >>> Unconfirmed suggested as the known person.
> > >>> > >>> I then tag the random person as "Ignored" and I would then
> expect
> > >>> > >>> *never* to see this particular image suggested as the known
> person
> > >>> > >>> again (or any other known person for that matter).
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> However, every time I rescan my collection with "Recognize
> faces",
> > >>>
> > >>> it
> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> keeps adding this random person - and the same exact image - as
> > >>> > >>> the
> > >>> > >>> known
> > >>> > >>> person.
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> In fact, this problem occurs with many different persons.
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> Is this a bug in DK - or am I doing something wrong? How do I
> > >>>
> > >>> ignore a
> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> detected face so that it will never be suggested again?
>
>
>
>
>
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