[digiKam-users] Suggested UX improvement: Empty trash

Maik Qualmann metzpinguin at gmail.com
Fri Jul 3 10:43:23 BST 2020


One more thought to the "Undo" in the edit menu. That would not really make
sense at the moment. The user would expect that other actions, such as
copying and moving items or adding tags, could be undo. The latter is not
really easy to implement. Therefore, the "Undo" button in the trash is
currently in good hands.

Maik

Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com> schrieb am Fr., 3. Juli 2020
10:21:

> Thanks Thomas for your suggestions.
>
> Please, for all tips, improvements, feedback, please use bugzilla
> instead of a mailing list. Bugzilla is safe in time, nothing lost. All
> files are public with the complete history and we can assign tasks
> easily to future students.
>
> For all code contributions, we use the gitlab PR mechanism now, which
> is very easy to use and very powerful to review code and integrate.
>
> Best
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> Le ven. 3 juil. 2020 à 09:22, Thomas D <sdktda at gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > Wow. That is definitely confusing.
> >
> > May I suggest that the Undo button be removed from Trash and then only
> show the Restore button there. Instead have the Undo action available via
> Edit menu (like most common applications) and have the Undo action be
> available in the entire application via shortcut Ctrl+Z (like most common
> applications).
> >
> > Hope you will consider this.
> >
> > PS. I am aware that I have posted a several suggestions for improvements
> to the user experience the last few days.
> > I am not a C++ programmer at a level at which I can contribute directly
> to the digikam codebase with patches, etc. However, I do think I can help
> quite a bit improving the UI/UX.
> > I hope you take this as a well-intentioned help to improve digikam as a
> product.
> > I think digikam is an awesome product. And as an amateur photographer, I
> love that it is available. I have used digikam for at least12 years and I
> love it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Den fre. 3. jul. 2020 kl. 05.55 skrev Maik Qualmann <
> metzpinguin at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> The "Undo" function restore the last deletion process, regardless of
> whether
> >> you last deleted 1 or thousands of files. Another "Undo" the next
> deletion
> >> process, etc. The "Restore" function only affects the files selected in
> the
> >> list view. You can see the number of entries in the trash in the status
> bar at
> >> the bottom left or if you have activated the item counter for the album
> view.
> >> No further changes to the trash are currently planned .. it's just a
> trash...
> >>
> >> Maik
> >>
> >> Am Donnerstag, 2. Juli 2020, 16:33:13 CEST schrieb Thomas D:
> >> > Another UX problem with Trash:
> >> > When opening the trash it has three action buttons:
> >> > - Undo
> >> > - Restore
> >> > - Delete
> >> >
> >> > Apparently, Undo and Restore does the same thing? Or at least I
> >> > havent figured out what the difference is.
> >> > There are no pop-up hints to explain the difference. If these buttons
> >> > really do the same thing, there should be only one button.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [image: image.png]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Another confusing thing: Right-clicking an image in the Trash offers
> no
> >> > Richt click menu. I would expect a menu to occur with options:
> "Restore"
> >> > and "Delete permanently". This follows what most modern OS do in their
> >> > desktop interface.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > One more thing: Trash offers no "file size" column. Nor does it show a
> >> > total size of elements in Trash. Why not? These are extremely valuable
> >> > information and something the user wants to know most of the time. It
> could
> >> > be shown in the Status bar.
> >> >
> >> > Den tir. 30. jun. 2020 kl. 18.09 skrev Dougie Nisbet <
> dougie at katsura.uk>:
> >> > > I found this a mild irritation when I first started using digiKam (
> >> > >
> http://digikam.1695700.n4.nabble.com/digiKam-users-Changing-location-of-dt
> >> > > rash-directory-td4709691.html ) as I have scripts that parse my
> image
> >> > > directory and as far as I can tell, it's not possible to relocate
> the
> >> > > .dtrash directory. I get round it by using a wrapper script that
> does an
> >> > > rm -rf /store/media/images/.dtrash before starting digiKam and it
> never
> >> > > seems to do any harm.
> >> > >
> >> > > Dougie
> >> > >
> >> > > On 30/06/2020 15:59, Thomas D wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Currently, it takes 4 clicks to empty Trash:
> >> > > 1. Find and click Trash in folder tree
> >> > > 2. Find and click Delete button on the opposite side of the
> screen(!)
> >> > > 3. Now a pop-up action menu is shown, click Delete all here. (Why
> not
> >> > > "Empty Trash"?)
> >> > > 4. You are now prompted "Are you sure you want to delete ALL items
> >> > > permanently?" (Oh no! Sounds scary - again, why not just say "Empty
> >> > > Trash"?
> >> > > which is a well established metafor on many systems). Click Yes to
> empty
> >> > > trash.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > The workflow can be improved by making the following possible:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1. Right click on Trash
> >> > > 2. Select Empty Trash
> >> > >
> >> > > This is both much simpler and less confusing for the user. And it
> is fewer
> >> > > clicks and much less cognitive load.
> >> > >
> >> > > Hope you will implement this.
> >> > >
> >> > > BR
> >> > > Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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