[digiKam-users] either face recognition screen is buggy or I still don't understand it - at least I can say that more convenient bulk change of face tags (no auto refresh / set faces via context menu) is neccessary #V5.9.0 Windows Feb 27 2018

[J Albrecht]

“But it makes our lives so much more convenient”. Yup. So does clear-cutting for cattle grazing so that we can eat more burgers.

digiKam is a fantastic software package for which I am thankful and use extensively. I truly appreciate all of the hard work and dedication of Gilles and his team. Yet this “focus” on Facial Recognition is short-sighted and will undoubtably be proven in the future to have been misguided. The backlash to Facebook’s blatant attacks on personal privacy is a prime example of the public’s growing outrage as the incipient erosion to liberty continues to become more clear.

"Technology or the ability to do something isn't evil. Using that technology in a evil way is.”  Sure, just like they always say in the mad US: “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people”…

A comment was made in reference to the OpenSource community. Perhaps this community should take a look at the commercial side and see how some of those members actually take a moral stand:  https://hypebeast.com/2018/12/google-employees-protest-china-search-engine  Or, is this silly because these people are merely “paranoid”?


> On 2 Feb 2019, at 15:20, Rob Dueckman <duke at dukey.org> wrote:
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> J Albrecht:
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> I use Digikam for personal use. I have a bad memory so having facial recognition is an asset for me when I'm looking for that photo from years ago that contains my long lost Aunt Milly. If it weren't for face recognition, it would take many hours of searching, or would just give up.
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> Having said that, our own eyes use face recognition. Are you suggesting we gouge our eyes out so we can't do our own facial recognition? But wait. we might recognise what they sound like, so we might as well cut off our ears. But we also might know what they smell like, so maybe cut off our noses too. I understand that blind people can recognise a person by touch, so we should probably cut off their hands.
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> Technology or the ability to do something isn't evil. Using that technology in a evil way is.
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> Please keep your paranoia out of this public forum. The developers work long and hard hours building something they love. If you can't be constructive, then please keep quiet.
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> On Sat, 2019-02-02 at 12:46 -0500, J Albrecht wrote:
>> So said the guy upon taking a break from his task of designing a “New and Improved” whale harpoon.
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>> Gilles, it seems that your technical abilities and enthusiasm for a great software product (which I absolutely appreciate!) blind you to the perils of Facial Recognition. Surely you’re not okay with rampant and pervasive surveillance, are you? Obviously (or so I assume), digiKam isn’t being designed for this purpose. However, by continuing to develop and advocate Facial Recognition, you are contributing to the “normalisation” of something which only a few years ago was justifiably considered to be vile and evil.
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>>> On 2 Feb 2019, at 11:48, Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com <mailto:caulier.gilles at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> Le sam. 2 févr. 2019 à 15:52, J Albrecht <heviiguy at gmail.com <mailto:heviiguy at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>>> Have you no shame?
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>>>> I cringe every time that I read about Facial Recognition software. You developers are like a bunch of giddy Manhattan Project nerds, gleefully and obliviously participating in the acceleration of our collective doom. You people are contributing to the development of scary, scary stuff. You’re not alone; Consider yourself members of a club which includes Custer Bomb Designers and Genome Modifiers. Like you, they see absolutely nothing wrong with what they’re doing because after all, they’re only building and promoting innocuous technology which will benefit “us”. Yeah, right. Tell that to the Uyghers…   …and to your children.
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>>> You talking to me ???
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>>> If yes, thanks for the noise and to help the project in a constructive way... It's always a pleasure to read this kind of words in an open source community.
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>>> Gilles Caulier
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