digikam default options

[Andrey Goreev]

Well, I take pictures to capture moments. So why should the date of the moment be changed if I simply added an info in order to be able to find that picture later ? 


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-------- Original message --------From: Simon Frei <freisim93 at gmail.com> Date: 2017-01-14  7:24 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <digikam-users at kde.org> Subject: Re: digikam default options 

    Well that is your philosophy. Mine is that anytime a file is
    modified on disk (the metadata header is part of the file) the
    timestamp should be updated. There is no correct philosophy, that is
    why there is an option to set the behaviour to ones taste.

    The usual (as in not photography related) behaviour is to change the
    timestamp on any file when it gets modified, so that is why this is
    the standard behaviour in digikam.

    

    On 14/01/17 15:14, Andrey Goreev wrote:

    
    
      
      Wanted to add to my message below.
      I think adding any info to metadata should not be considered
        as "file modifying". Why would you add any metadata? To get your
        pictures organized, right? So why would mess with timestamps
        then? Original timestamps should be preserved.
      If you actually develop a picture that is a different case.
        Filestamp should be up to date.
      IMHO.
      

      
      
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          Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
      
      

      
      
        -------- Original message --------
        From: Andrey Goreev <aegoreev at gmail.com> 
        Date: 2017-01-14 7:04 AM (GMT-07:00) 
        To: cerp at eeos.biz, digiKam - Home Manage your photographs
          as a professional with the power of open source
          <digikam-users at kde.org> 
        Subject: Re: digikam default options 
        

        
      
      I guess it is not clear what the "file timestamp" is and what
        is considered "file modifying".
      

      
      There are tons of date tags in metadata  (try to "exiftool -s
        filename" one of your files has been modified few times using
        different programs. You will be surprised how many date/time
        tags are there. So which one being updated when the option is
        on?
      

      
      Also, is adding a keyword or caption or label or geolocation
        considered a file modifying? Or that only applies to an image
        that has been touched in Image Editor module?
      

      
      

      
      
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          Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
      
      

      
      
        -------- Original message --------
        From: cerp <cerp at eeos.biz> 
        Date: 2017-01-14 6:50 AM (GMT-07:00) 
        To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a
          professional with the power of open source
          <digikam-users at kde.org> 
        Subject: Re: digikam default options 
        

        
      
      Dear all,

      

      This is exactly the second problem we have: when you modify the
      exif  

      data of the JPG or RAW fle, for example for adding copyright  

      information, or photograph title and description (important for
      some  

      assignment and for some contests / prizes), the file timestamp is 
      

      modified, which means the whole time order is screwed and when
      you  

      then try to open the photographs with another editor or DAM tool. 
      

      Would it be possible to have the option to switch off modification
      of  

      the file timestamp when we only modify the exif data?

      

      Best Regards

      

      Corrado & Rina

      

      

      

      

      

      Quoting Remco Viëtor <remco.vietor at wanadoo.fr>:

      

      > On samedi 14 janvier 2017 13:55:04 CET Gilles Caulier wrote:

      >> 2017-01-14 13:51 GMT+01:00 Remco Viëtor
      <remco.vietor at wanadoo.fr>:

      >> > On jeudi 12 janvier 2017 08:49:06 CET Andrey Goreev
      wrote:

      >> > > Hello,

      >> > >

      >> > > I thought it might be not a bad idea to let
      users activate/deactivate

      >> > > the

      >> > > following options during the initial setup
      wizard:

      >> > >

      >> > > * Update file timestamp when files are modified
      (activated by default)

      >> > > * Always show original images (deactivated by
      default)

      >> > >

      >> > > I have a feeling that many users would prefer
      to have updating the file

      >> > > timestamp box unchecked and show original
      images checked.

      >> >

      >> > Showing original images as default: yes; that avoids
      images appearing as

      >> > 'not

      >> > present' and considered 'lost' (see mailing list...)

      >> >

      >> > NOT updating timestamps as default: no, for at least
      one simple reason.

      >> > If you mean the file "last-modified" timestamp, not
      updating that would

      >> > break

      >> > all "make-like" programs and scripts, that use that
      timestamp to see if a

      >> > particular fiel needs treatment?

      >>

      >> Ah i miss-understand your previous mail. The option is
      enabled by default

      >> and your want to see this option turned off now. Right ?

      >>

      >> Gilles Caulier

      >

      > It's my first mail in this thread, so, "which previous mail"?
      :^)

      > My reply was to Andrey Goreev (the OP)

      >

      > For the record, I agree with what you stated as Digikam
      defaults in your

      > earlier mail (Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:10:12 +0000 (UTC)):

      > Update file timestamps          : YES

      > Always show original images : YES

      

      

      

    
    

  
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