<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>Well, I take pictures to capture moments. So why should the date of the moment be changed if I simply added an info in order to be able to find that picture later ? </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.</div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Simon Frei <freisim93@gmail.com> </div><div>Date: 2017-01-14 7:24 AM (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <digikam-users@kde.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: digikam default options </div><div><br></div></div>
Well that is your philosophy. Mine is that anytime a file is
modified on disk (the metadata header is part of the file) the
timestamp should be updated. There is no correct philosophy, that is
why there is an option to set the behaviour to ones taste.<br>
The usual (as in not photography related) behaviour is to change the
timestamp on any file when it gets modified, so that is why this is
the standard behaviour in digikam.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/01/17 15:14, Andrey Goreev wrote:<br>
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<div>Wanted to add to my message below.</div>
<div>I think adding any info to metadata should not be considered
as "file modifying". Why would you add any metadata? To get your
pictures organized, right? So why would mess with timestamps
then? Original timestamps should be preserved.</div>
<div>If you actually develop a picture that is a different case.
Filestamp should be up to date.</div>
<div>IMHO.</div>
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<div>From: Andrey Goreev <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:aegoreev@gmail.com"><aegoreev@gmail.com></a> </div>
<div>Date: 2017-01-14 7:04 AM (GMT-07:00) </div>
<div>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cerp@eeos.biz">cerp@eeos.biz</a>, digiKam - Home Manage your photographs
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<div>I guess it is not clear what the "file timestamp" is and what
is considered "file modifying".</div>
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<div>There are tons of date tags in metadata (try to "exiftool -s
filename" one of your files has been modified few times using
different programs. You will be surprised how many date/time
tags are there. So which one being updated when the option is
on?</div>
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<div>Also, is adding a keyword or caption or label or geolocation
considered a file modifying? Or that only applies to an image
that has been touched in Image Editor module?</div>
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<div>From: cerp <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cerp@eeos.biz"><cerp@eeos.biz></a> </div>
<div>Date: 2017-01-14 6:50 AM (GMT-07:00) </div>
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Dear all,<br>
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This is exactly the second problem we have: when you modify the
exif <br>
data of the JPG or RAW fle, for example for adding copyright <br>
information, or photograph title and description (important for
some <br>
assignment and for some contests / prizes), the file timestamp is
<br>
modified, which means the whole time order is screwed and when
you <br>
then try to open the photographs with another editor or DAM tool.
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Would it be possible to have the option to switch off modification
of <br>
the file timestamp when we only modify the exif data?<br>
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Best Regards<br>
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Corrado & Rina<br>
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Quoting Remco Viëtor <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:remco.vietor@wanadoo.fr"><remco.vietor@wanadoo.fr></a>:<br>
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> On samedi 14 janvier 2017 13:55:04 CET Gilles Caulier wrote:<br>
>> 2017-01-14 13:51 GMT+01:00 Remco Viëtor
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:remco.vietor@wanadoo.fr"><remco.vietor@wanadoo.fr></a>:<br>
>> > On jeudi 12 janvier 2017 08:49:06 CET Andrey Goreev
wrote:<br>
>> > > Hello,<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > I thought it might be not a bad idea to let
users activate/deactivate<br>
>> > > the<br>
>> > > following options during the initial setup
wizard:<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > * Update file timestamp when files are modified
(activated by default)<br>
>> > > * Always show original images (deactivated by
default)<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > I have a feeling that many users would prefer
to have updating the file<br>
>> > > timestamp box unchecked and show original
images checked.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Showing original images as default: yes; that avoids
images appearing as<br>
>> > 'not<br>
>> > present' and considered 'lost' (see mailing list...)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > NOT updating timestamps as default: no, for at least
one simple reason.<br>
>> > If you mean the file "last-modified" timestamp, not
updating that would<br>
>> > break<br>
>> > all "make-like" programs and scripts, that use that
timestamp to see if a<br>
>> > particular fiel needs treatment?<br>
>><br>
>> Ah i miss-understand your previous mail. The option is
enabled by default<br>
>> and your want to see this option turned off now. Right ?<br>
>><br>
>> Gilles Caulier<br>
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> It's my first mail in this thread, so, "which previous mail"?
:^)<br>
> My reply was to Andrey Goreev (the OP)<br>
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> For the record, I agree with what you stated as Digikam
defaults in your<br>
> earlier mail (Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:10:12 +0000 (UTC)):<br>
> Update file timestamps : YES<br>
> Always show original images : YES<br>
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