digikam default options

[Andrey Goreev]

Wanted to add to my message below.I think adding any info to metadata should not be considered as "file modifying". Why would you add any metadata? To get your pictures organized, right? So why would mess with timestamps then? Original timestamps should be preserved.If you actually develop a picture that is a different case. Filestamp should be up to date.IMHO.
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-------- Original message --------From: Andrey Goreev <aegoreev at gmail.com> Date: 2017-01-14  7:04 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: cerp at eeos.biz, digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <digikam-users at kde.org> Subject: Re: digikam default options 
I guess it is not clear what the "file timestamp" is and what is considered "file modifying".
There are tons of date tags in metadata  (try to "exiftool -s filename" one of your files has been modified few times using different programs. You will be surprised how many date/time tags are there. So which one being updated when the option is on?
Also, is adding a keyword or caption or label or geolocation considered a file modifying? Or that only applies to an image that has been touched in Image Editor module?

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-------- Original message --------From: cerp <cerp at eeos.biz> Date: 2017-01-14  6:50 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <digikam-users at kde.org> Subject: Re: digikam default options 
Dear all,

This is exactly the second problem we have: when you modify the exif  
data of the JPG or RAW fle, for example for adding copyright  
information, or photograph title and description (important for some  
assignment and for some contests / prizes), the file timestamp is  
modified, which means the whole time order is screwed and when you  
then try to open the photographs with another editor or DAM tool.  
Would it be possible to have the option to switch off modification of  
the file timestamp when we only modify the exif data?

Best Regards

Corrado & Rina





Quoting Remco Viëtor <remco.vietor at wanadoo.fr>:

> On samedi 14 janvier 2017 13:55:04 CET Gilles Caulier wrote:
>> 2017-01-14 13:51 GMT+01:00 Remco Viëtor <remco.vietor at wanadoo.fr>:
>> > On jeudi 12 janvier 2017 08:49:06 CET Andrey Goreev wrote:
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > I thought it might be not a bad idea to let users activate/deactivate
>> > > the
>> > > following options during the initial setup wizard:
>> > >
>> > > * Update file timestamp when files are modified (activated by default)
>> > > * Always show original images (deactivated by default)
>> > >
>> > > I have a feeling that many users would prefer to have updating the file
>> > > timestamp box unchecked and show original images checked.
>> >
>> > Showing original images as default: yes; that avoids images appearing as
>> > 'not
>> > present' and considered 'lost' (see mailing list...)
>> >
>> > NOT updating timestamps as default: no, for at least one simple reason.
>> > If you mean the file "last-modified" timestamp, not updating that would
>> > break
>> > all "make-like" programs and scripts, that use that timestamp to see if a
>> > particular fiel needs treatment?
>>
>> Ah i miss-understand your previous mail. The option is enabled by default
>> and your want to see this option turned off now. Right ?
>>
>> Gilles Caulier
>
> It's my first mail in this thread, so, "which previous mail"? :^)
> My reply was to Andrey Goreev (the OP)
>
> For the record, I agree with what you stated as Digikam defaults in your
> earlier mail (Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:10:12 +0000 (UTC)):
> Update file timestamps          : YES
> Always show original images : YES



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