Group JPG and RAW
Simon Frei
freisim93 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 10 17:57:41 GMT 2017
@Andrey: I completely misinterpreted your earlier statements, sorry. I
just associated group by type with what it does in digikam, without
actually thinking about it.
I completely agree that semantically it is wrong to say group by type. I
wonder whether group by name (while correct) is clear. Does a user, who
doesn't already know what it is meant to do, understand what is meant by
name (namely the filename without the extension)?
On 10/01/17 18:36, Andrey Goreev wrote:
> For me *.DNG is one type and *.JPG is another type.
> If you go to menubar - view - group images - group by format this is
> grouping by type for me.
> just saying...
>
> Best regards,
> Andrey Goreev
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Gilles Caulier
> <caulier.gilles at gmail.com <mailto:caulier.gilles at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> At least "Group by Type" must be "Group by Type-Mime". Type Mime
> is already used in setup dialog.
>
> Take a care. Wikipedia said that media type must be used instead
> type mime tp prevent confusion. I'm not agree. Media is a support
> of data, as network stream, removable device, etc... Not only a file.
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
>
> 2017-01-10 17:54 GMT+01:00 Christoph Huckle <chrihuc at gmail.com
> <mailto:chrihuc at gmail.com>>:
>
> Hi Simon,
>
> In the past I would have agreed with your explanation about
> grouping by type, but after thinking about it, the group's
> don't hold images of the same type and that's what grouping by
> type means.
> So, I apologize for picking that expression and am the opinion
> that correct would be grouping by name.
>
> Regards,
> Christoph
>
>
> Simon Frei <freisim93 at gmail.com <mailto:freisim93 at gmail.com>>
> schrieb am Di., 10. Jan. 2017, 17:30:
>
> Hi Andrey,
>
> I completely agree that the naming of grouping is
> confusing. Do you have a suggestion how the two
> functionalities could be named instead?
> One is grouping icons by album/format/not at all in the
> main view (that's why it is in the "View" menu) and the
> other groups actual image files together (->context menu).
> Maybe the view grouping could be called structure instead
> of group and keeping group terminology for images. I am
> not a native English speaker, so I am very unsure on the
> subject.
>
> Regarding "Group selected by type": This says exactly what
> it does: It groups any file ("name.extension") that shares
> name but has a different extension. So 00001.arw is
> grouped together with 00001.jpg, but also with 00001.tif
> or any other extension.
>
> Cheers,
> Simon
>
>
> On 10/01/17 17:04, Andrey Goreev wrote:
>> Hello Christoph,
>>
>> Thank you a ton for your contribution!
>>
>> I have been actually looking for that group RAW / JPG
>> option in "(Menubar) - View - Group Images".
>> The fact that that menu menu does match the "Right click
>> (on images) - Group" menu is pretty confusing. Plus,
>> again, the option is called "Group selected by type"
>> instead of "Group RAW and JPG" so I bet there are many
>> users out there that have no idea the option actually
>> exists.
>> Just some thoughts.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andrey Goreev
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Simon Frei
>> <freisim93 at gmail.com <mailto:freisim93 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Christoph,
>>
>> First: 5.4.0 is out: https://www.digikam.org/node/764
>> <https://www.digikam.org/node/764>
>> It isn't anything big, nevertheless important (at
>> least for my workflow).
>> Citing from the release text:
>>
>> Grouped items are now processed together.
>> Previously operations
>> would only apply to the top image in the group
>> (i.e. the image
>> displayed when grouped images are hidden). In
>> other words, applying,
>> for example, a tag to a top image in a group will
>> assign the tag to
>> all images in this group.
>>
>> On 10/01/17 10:33, Christoph Huckle wrote:
>>> Hello Both,
>>>
>>> Sorry you are correct, I picked the wrong expression...
>>> @Simon, I'm not fully in the loop, as I'm not a team
>>> member, just programmed that feature for myself and
>>> then in made it's way upstream :) but what are the
>>> cases you are talking about, which will be fixed in
>>> 5.4.0?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Christoph
>>>
>>> Andrey Goreev <aegoreev at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:aegoreev at gmail.com>> schrieb am Mo., 9. Jan.
>>> 2017 um 19:34 Uhr:
>>>
>>> Hello Simon,
>>>
>>> It actually worked! Thank you!
>>>
>>> To be honestly I thought "group by type" means
>>> group by extension. RAW and JPG files are
>>> different type but same file name for me.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Andrey Goreev
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 3:50 AM, Simon Frei
>>> <freisim93 at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:freisim93 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't read those conversations, but
>>> grouping by extension is implemented. I use
>>> it frequently. The behaviour was somewhat
>>> strange (grouped images were not in all
>>> appropriate cases processed together), but
>>> that will be corrected in 5.4.0.
>>> To group raw and jpg, select all to be
>>> grouped images (so all jpg and raw files)
>>> and in the context menu select group ->
>>> group selected by type.
>>>
>>> On 03/01/17 23:56, Andrey Goreev wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have read the following threads but could
>>>> not understand what the actual status is.
>>>>
>>>> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/2015-August/021374.html
>>>> <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/2015-August/021374.html>
>>>> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/2010-September/011117.html
>>>> <https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/2010-September/011117.html>
>>>>
>>>> That feature is very useful for the culling
>>>> process.
>>>> Please let me know if I could be of any
>>>> help in getting this feature released.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Andrey Goreev
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christoph Huckle
>>>
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>>> 5106 Veltheim
>>>
>>> 076 419 62 61
>>
>>
>
> --
> Christoph Huckle
>
> Unterm Aspalter 22
> 5106 Veltheim
>
> 076 419 62 61
>
>
>
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