Digikam 5.7 and printing images
Stuart T Rogers
stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
Wed Dec 27 10:18:07 GMT 2017
Just to say that there has been some action on this QT bug and I believe
there is a fix being tested. Apparently the fix is coming soon to
openSUSE Tumbleweed. As soon as I see it I will test it and see if it
does indeed resolve the issue of not being able to select the correct
paper size.
Stuart
On 25/09/17 09:24, Stuart T Rogers wrote:
> Gilles the bug QTBUG-58733 is still open and anyone who has a QT account
> can vote on it.
>
> Stuart
>
> On 25/09/17 08:28, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>> Also, if other Qt application has this kind of problem with Qt print
>> driver, there are good candidates to vote on it. ex : Krita, gwenview,
>> scribus, koffice, etc...
>>
>> Gilles Caulier
>>
>> 2017-09-25 9:27 GMT+02:00 Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com
>> <mailto:caulier.gilles at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> The only way is to re-open the bug in Qt bugzilla and to write the
>> right word to explain the problem again.
>>
>> Also the vote to this bugzilla entry is important. I'm sure that Qt
>> team will take a look to entries with a good amount of vote, by
>> order of priority...
>>
>> Gilles Caulier
>>
>> 2017-09-25 8:57 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers
>> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>:
>>
>> I contacted Robert Krawitz who is the lead developer on
>> Gutenprint originally and with his help had that QT bug raised.
>> Following on from Maik's comments I sent them to Robert for his
>> view.
>>
>> Here are his comments:-
>> >
>> > It's a disaster.
>> >
>> > However, if Qt is really claiming that this is due to the PPD
>> spec,
>> > they are badly misreading it, to wit (p. 183):
>> >
>> > Only the most common page sizes are specified here. A
>> device
>> > manufacturer is free to list a new size in a PPD file
>> for a new
>> > device. However, care should be taken to avoid
>> duplicating the
>> > semantics of an already-registered option keyword. Also,
>> when
>> > creating a new option keyword, the capitalization
>> conventions
>> > shown in the tables should be followed as much as
>> possible; that
>> > is, the first letters of logical words should be
>> capitalized.
>> >
>> > The comments in /usr/include/qt5/QtGui/qpagesize.h should
>> make it very
>> > clear that this is really badly designed:
>> >
>> > // ### Qt6 Re-order and remove duplicates
>> > // NOTE: Must keep in sync with QPagedPrintEngine and
>> QPrinter
>> >
>> > qprinter has its own problems: it only knows about a fixed
>> (small) set
>> > of options and values; look at PaperSource, for instance.
>> >
>>
>> Some how this must be changed and get QT to understand the issue
>> and resolve it. Anything which can be done by anyone here will
>> add pressure on QT to resolve this.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>> On 24/09/17 21:29, Stuart T Rogers wrote:
>>
>> Well that is a huge issue and completely unacceptable. QT
>> should be only listing those paper sizes supported by the
>> printer being used, anything else is just plain wrong.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On 24/09/17 19:24, Maik Qualmann wrote:
>>
>> This Qt problem is really bad. It is not really a bug
>> but rather a design
>> problem. Qt uses a fixed QPageSize list. This is based
>> on Adobe PostScript PPD
>> Standard v4.3. In this list is 5x7 not defined. Qt tries
>> to break any other
>> page size to this list or ignore the size.
>>
>> Maik
>>
>> Am Sonntag, 24. September 2017, 19:08:49 CEST schrieb
>> Gilles Caulier:
>>
>> Hum, yes, the print driver properties still relevant
>> of low level Qt print
>> plugin.
>>
>> If the bug still in Qt, this will not fixed in DK...
>>
>> But did you try to select PDF as output (or Gimp),
>> organize photo output,
>> and generate it. Gimp output want mean PDF in
>> background. this must be at
>> least not dependent of Qt driver. In Gimp Qt print
>> driver is not used.
>> Perhaps the result will be better.
>>
>> Gilles Caulier
>>
>> 2017-09-24 18:59 GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers
>> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>:
>>
>> That should have said A4 for paper size not A$!
>> My bad....
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On 24/09/17 17:58, Stuart T Rogers wrote:
>>
>> Gilles
>>
>> Firstly let me apologise for the printphoto
>> thing again.
>>
>> I have removed the directory as describe and
>> yes I can now find the Print
>> Creator.
>>
>> Unless I am doing something wrong it does
>> not work correctly for
>> selecting the paper sizes exactly as before.
>> I can it comes up with A$
>> which is the default but I am unable to
>> change the value to 5x7 or many
>> others as well. This is exactly the issue
>> with QT. I do have gimp
>> installed
>> by the way.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On 24/09/17 14:44, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>>
>> It's a hidden bug. Thanks Maik to
>> discover the origin of the problem.
>>
>> Let's me few days to update the 5.8.0
>> pre release bundle. I will upload
>> files when it's will be ready.
>>
>> Gilles Caulier
>>
>> 2017-09-24 12:58 GMT+02:00 Maik Qualmann
>> <metzpinguin at gmail.com
>> <mailto:metzpinguin at gmail.com> <mailto:
>>
>> metzpinguin at gmail.com
>> <mailto:metzpinguin at gmail.com>>>:
>> Stuart,
>> rename/remove
>> $HOME/.local/share/kxmlgui5/digikam to
>> get all new
>> menu entries
>> This bug is now fixed in
>> digikam-5.8.0 (today).
>> Maik
>> Am Sonntag, 24. September 2017,
>> 12:29:25 CEST schrieb fotografie:
>> > I just checked it again. The
>> Tools Menue - Print Creator is
>> available in
>> > - preview,
>> > - photo processing
>> > - lighttable.
>> >
>> > Did you accidentally close the
>> menu bar? Hit CTRL - M (STRG - M
>>
>> on a
>>
>> > german keyboard) and the menu
>> bar should appear or disappear.
>> >
>> > Best regards Ulf
>> >
>> > Am 24.09.2017 um 12:21 schrieb
>> fotografie:
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > I use the german version of
>> DK 5.7 and 5.8.0.1 appimage for
>> Ubuntu and
>> > > the function is available in
>> both versions under
>> > > Tools - Print Creaqtor
>> > > in my german version it is:
>> > > Extras - Print Creator
>> > >
>> > > Gimp is installed on my
>> machine and DK uses Gimp for printing
>> the images
>> > > Best regards Ulf
>> > >
>> > > Am 24.09.2017 um 11:46
>> schrieb Stuart T Rogers:
>> > >> I just tried the 5.8
>> appimage and cannot see it in there
>>
>> either.
>>
>> > >> Stuart
>> > >>
>> > >> On 24/09/17 10:12, Stuart T
>> Rogers wrote:
>> > >>> Gilles
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I have just looked at the
>> Tools menu at the top of the screen
>>
>> in
>>
>> > >>> 5.7.0 and there is no Print
>> Creator menu entry. Also cannot
>> find it
>> > >>> in any other menu either
>> which is why I thought the print
>> function ha
>> > >>> been removed.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Stuart
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 24/09/17 10:02, Gilles
>> Caulier wrote:
>> > >>>> But we don't remove print
>> feature at all...
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Print must be avaialble
>> everywhere in 5.7.0 release. Look
>> for ex in
>> > >>>> Tools menu, there is an
>> entry named "Print Creator" that you
>>
>> can
>>
>> > >>>> send data to print to Gimp
>> engine to process work on printer
>> device.
>> > >>>> Gilles Caulier
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> 2017-09-24 10:47 GMT+02:00
>> Stuart T Rogers
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>>>:
>> > >>>> My apologies I can see
>> it in the right click menu on an
>> image.
>> > >>>> Obviously this is
>> there because I have it installed. I
>> had assumed,
>> > >>>> wrongly, it was there
>> because the print function has
>> been removed
>> > >>>> from digikam.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> One of my main uses of
>> digikam is to print my photos and
>> prior
>> > >>>> to it
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> using QT this was what
>> I always used for printing.
>> Because of
>> > >>>> the QT
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> bug it was not
>> possible to use the printing facilities
>> of digikam.
>> > >>>> Now I realise that the
>> print function problems are not
>> digikam's
>> > >>>> fault but it is so
>> frustrating that QT are ignoring the
>> paper size
>> > >>>> selection bug
>> (QTBUG-58733), this has been open since
>> February this
>> > >>>> year and nothing has
>> been done by the QT devs.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> If the printing
>> capabilities of QT are not fixed and the
>> print
>> > >>>> options of digikam
>> restored I will need to try to find
>> another
>> > >>>> image
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> management tool which
>> allows me to both manage and print
>> > >>>> successfully which is
>> a great shame since I do like its
>> management
>> > >>>> capabilities. It is a
>> huge shame that applications like
>> digikam
>> > >>>> have
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> to remove useful
>> options because of a bug elsewhere.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Stuart
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On 24/09/17 08:42,
>> Gilles Caulier wrote:
>> > >>>> What do you mean
>> by "photoprint" ? Where do you see
>>
>> any
>>
>> > >>>> reference of
>> photoprint in digiKam ?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> 2017-09-24 9:33
>> GMT+02:00 Stuart T Rogers
>> > >>>>
>> <stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.or
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.or>
>>
>> g.uk <http://g.uk>>>
>>
>> > >>>>
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>
>> > >>>>
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk
>> <mailto:stuart at stella-maris.org.uk>>>>>:
>> > >>>> I noticed
>> that printing now is accomplished by
>> using
>> > >>>> Photoprint
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> rather than
>> the original tools. However this
>> does not work
>> > >>>> for me.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Photoprint is
>> quite old and seems not to be
>> actively
>> > >>>> supported
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> although the
>> website still exists. It looks
>> like it works
>> > >>>> and seems
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> to send data
>> to my Canon iP7250 (over wireless)
>>
>> but
>>
>> > >>>> nothing
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> happens
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> at the
>> printer. Has anyone here actually
>> > >>>> printed
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> successfully using
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Photoprint
>> and if so how? Was the printer
>> wireless or USB
>> > >>>> connected?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I am using
>> the latest available version of
>> Photoprint.
>> > >>>> Sadly the QT
>> paper size bug preventing
>> successful use of
>> > >>>> printing
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> seems to be
>> being ignored by the QT developers.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Stuart
>> > >>>> --
>> Website: http://www.stella-maris.org.uk
>> > >>>> or:
>> http://www.broadstairs.org
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> -- Website:
>> http://www.stella-maris.org.uk
>> > >>>> or:
>> http://www.broadstairs.org
>> --
>> Gruß Maik
>>
>>
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