[Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
Alan Pater
alan.pater at gmail.com
Tue Mar 10 18:03:47 GMT 2015
Here is a sample image with Categories added with the trial version of
ACDSee Pro 8.
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>
wrote:
> As i said previously, please share images to investigate and patch
> digiKAm code to import categories set by ACDSee. Typically, info are
> there :
>
> Categories : <Categories><Category
> Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category
> Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category
> Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category
> Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category
> Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories>
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2015-03-09 22:41 GMT+01:00 Heikki Rekki <heikkirekki at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Hi Thanks Jim. I tried Exiftool and got following txt file.
> >
> > ExifTool Version Number : 9.89
> > File Name : P1070219.jpg
> > Directory :
> > e:/6-Kuvat/1-Kamera/1-Lumix/2012/2012-04-09
> > File Size : 3.2 MB
> > File Modification Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
> > File Access Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
> > File Creation Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
> > File Permissions : rw-rw-rw-
> > File Type : JPEG
> > MIME Type : image/jpeg
> > Exif Byte Order : Little-endian (Intel, II)
> > Make : Panasonic
> > Camera Model Name : DMC-FZ18
> > Orientation : Horizontal (normal)
> > X Resolution : 72
> > Y Resolution : 72
> > Resolution Unit : inches
> > Software : Nikon Transfer 1.5 W
> > Modify Date : 2012:04:09 17:19:10
> > Y Cb Cr Positioning : Centered
> > Exposure Time : 1/50
> > F Number : 3.6
> > Exposure Program : Program AE
> > ISO : 200
> > Exif Version : 0221
> > Date/Time Original : 2012:04:09 13:36:59
> > Create Date : 2012:04:09 13:36:59
> > Components Configuration : Y, Cb, Cr, -
> > Exposure Compensation : 0
> > Max Aperture Value : 2.8
> > Metering Mode : Multi-segment
> > Light Source : Flash
> > Flash : On, Fired
> > Focal Length : 13.6 mm
> > Warning : [minor] Possibly incorrect maker notes
> > offsets (fix by -306?)
> > Image Quality : High
> > Firmware Version : 0.1.0.8
> > White Balance : Auto
> > Focus Mode : Manual
> > AF Area Mode : 5-area
> > Image Stabilization : On, Mode 2
> > Macro Mode : Off
> > Shooting Mode : Program
> > Audio : No
> > Data Dump : (Binary data 6152 bytes, use -b option
> to
> > extract)
> > Flash Bias : 0
> > Internal Serial Number : ""ÿÀ..x ..!.
> > Panasonic Exif Version : 0230
> > Color Effect : Off
> > Time Since Power On : 00:01:25.12
> > Burst Mode : Off
> > Sequence Number : 0
> > Contrast Mode : Normal
> > Noise Reduction : Standard
> > Self Timer : Off
> > Rotation : Horizontal (normal)
> > AF Assist Lamp : Enabled but Not Used
> > Color Mode : Normal
> > Optical Zoom Mode : Standard
> > Conversion Lens : Off
> > Travel Day : n/a
> > World Time Location : Home
> > Program ISO : 200
> > Advanced Scene Type : 1
> > Faces Detected : 0
> > WB Shift AB : 5
> > WB Shift GM : -1
> > Maker Note Version : 0120
> > Scene Mode : Off
> > WB Red Level : 1741
> > WB Green Level : 1054
> > WB Blue Level : 2027
> > Flash Fired : Yes
> > Text Stamp : Off
> > Baby Age :
> > Flashpix Version : 0100
> > Color Space : sRGB
> > Exif Image Width : 3264
> > Exif Image Height : 2176
> > Interoperability Index : R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
> > Interoperability Version : 0100
> > Sensing Method : One-chip color area
> > File Source : Digital Camera
> > Scene Type : Directly photographed
> > Custom Rendered : Normal
> > Exposure Mode : Auto
> > Digital Zoom Ratio : 0
> > Focal Length In 35mm Format : 86 mm
> > Scene Capture Type : Standard
> > Gain Control : Low gain up
> > Contrast : Normal
> > Saturation : Normal
> > Sharpness : Normal
> > Compression : JPEG (old-style)
> > Thumbnail Offset : 7702
> > Thumbnail Length : 7789
> > XMP Toolkit : XMP Core 5.1.2
> > Rating Percent : 0
> > Caption :
> > Date Time : 2012:04:09 13:36:59.000
> > Author :
> > Notes :
> > Tagged : False
> > Categories : <Categories><Category
> > Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category
> > Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category
> > Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category
> > Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category
> > Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories>
> > Rating : 0
> > Label :
> > Image Width : 3264
> > Image Height : 2176
> > Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
> > Bits Per Sample : 8
> > Color Components : 3
> > Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:2 (2 1)
> > Advanced Scene Mode : Off
> > Aperture : 3.6
> > Blue Balance : 1.92315
> > Image Size : 3264x2176
> > Megapixels : 7.1
> > Red Balance : 1.651803
> > Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 6.3
> > Shutter Speed : 1/50
> > Thumbnail Image : (Binary data 7789 bytes, use -b option
> to
> > extract)
> > Circle Of Confusion : 0.005 mm
> > Field Of View : 23.6 deg
> > Focal Length : 13.6 mm (35 mm equivalent: 86.0 mm)
> > Hyperfocal Distance : 10.81 m
> > Light Value : 8.3
> >
> >
> > Ican try to go on learning how I can use that. If I must extract that
> > information separately all of my files and somehow input them to DigiKam
> by
> > hand, I say no thanks, it is impossible.
> > sinc Heikki
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 16:09:01 +0000
> >> From: Jim MacLeod <csq4u8yrvy at virginmedia.com>
> >> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
> >> power of open source <digikam-users at kde.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Digikam-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 4
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >> <CAGRV6wzhvG=OSBjed-NyOFcfGFTEXrUKxRUScKZy0wC=EEOcwg at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Is it worth trying Exiftool (
> >> http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
> >> ) as this programme runs in Windows as well as Linux. It may allow you
> to
> >> see how all the metadata is stored.
> >>
> >> On 9 March 2015 at 14:42, Heikki Rekki <heikkirekki at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi, Thanks to all!
> >> > I suppose, that Francis "solved" my problem. I had used ACDSee from
> >> > version 8 and now I use ACDSeePro 7. Version 10 (if I remember
> correct)
> >> > ACDSee begin to embed properties into the files itself. I see that
> like
> >> > this: I burn some foto files to cd rom disk without any database. Only
> >> > .JPG
> >> > file OR both .RAW files and .XMP files. Then I go and read cd with
> >> > another
> >> > computer, where I have installed ACDSee program. Then I give command
> >> > Catalog files and ACDSee reads all properties from my files and put
> them
> >> > in
> >> > its own database. Also sutch properties, whitch are not in the
> database
> >> > formerly.
> >> > But I use, ofcourse, hierarcical categories, for instance Rekki (my
> >> > family
> >> > name)/Heikki (my foname), Marjatta (my wife)... and so on. In windows
> I
> >> > didn't find any of these categories, no in .jpg files or in .raw and
> >> > .xmp
> >> > files (Yes, both of yhem are in sama folder with the same filename.) I
> >> > couldn't see top categiry (Rekki) or subcategorie (Rekke/Heikki).
> >> > If the truth is this, as Farcis sade, it is impossible to me to change
> >> > Windos to Linux, and that is very pity.[?]
> >> > Heikki
> >> >
> >> > 2015-03-09 14:00 GMT+02:00 <digikam-users-request at kde.org>:
> >> >
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> >> >>
> >> >> 1. DigiKam and ACDSee (Heikki Rekki)
> >> >> 2. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Johannes Kapune)
> >> >> 3. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Gilles Caulier)
> >> >> 4. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Francis Corvin)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 1
> >> >> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 15:16:48 +0200
> >> >> From: Heikki Rekki <heikkirekki at gmail.com>
> >> >> To: digikam-users at kde.org
> >> >> Subject: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
> >> >> Message-ID:
> >> >> <
> >> >> CAKP1LYxuv2264URWJ8ykh+nTtS9K0QqRU_GpANq65jj0xC-OMw at mail.gmail.com>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> >>
> >> >> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
> photos
> >> >> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want to
> >> >> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
> >> >> metadata
> >> >> (
> >> >> all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all properties
> >> >> into
> >> >> photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in Windows).
> >> >> Heikki
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> >> >> ------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 2
> >> >> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:55:04 +0100
> >> >> From: Johannes Kapune <listen at kapune.de>
> >> >> To: digikam-users at kde.org
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
> >> >> Message-ID: <54FC70D8.3010008 at kapune.de>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Heikki,
> >> >>
> >> >> if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my experience
> >> >> is
> >> >> that DigiKam will show them.
> >> >>
> >> >> So what special metadata do you searching for?
> >> >>
> >> >> You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database
> outside
> >> >> of photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
> >> >> photos?
> >> >>
> >> >> Johannes
> >> >>
> >> >> Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
> >> >> > I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
> >> >> > photos
> >> >> > that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want
> to
> >> >> > change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
> >> >> > metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
> >> >> > properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
> >> >> Windows).
> >> >> > Heikki
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > Digikam-users mailing list
> >> >> > Digikam-users at kde.org
> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 3
> >> >> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 17:50:03 +0100
> >> >> From: Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>
> >> >> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
> >> >> power of open source <digikam-users at kde.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
> >> >> Message-ID:
> >> >> <
> >> >> CAHFG6sHZ18s2fiqHG-9KvLiHOVN0gZUK4F18SMK7wsLJQNugtA at mail.gmail.com>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.
> >> >>
> >> >> At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported
> in
> >> >> digiKam.
> >> >>
> >> >> Note : there are 3 situations possible :
> >> >>
> >> >> 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
> >> >> 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
> >> >> 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
> >> >>
> >> >> Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do
> not
> >> >> ask me to import this information from a private database.
> >> >>
> >> >> Gilles Caulier
> >> >>
> >> >> 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune <listen at kapune.de>:
> >> >> > Hi Heikki,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my
> experience
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > that DigiKam will show them.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So what special metadata do you searching for?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database
> >> >> > outside
> >> >> of
> >> >> > photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
> >> >> photos?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Johannes
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
> >> >> >> photos
> >> >> >> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
> >> >> >> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds
> all
> >> >> >> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
> >> >> >> Windows).
> >> >> >> Heikki
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> Digikam-users mailing list
> >> >> >> Digikam-users at kde.org
> >> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > Digikam-users mailing list
> >> >> > Digikam-users at kde.org
> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 4
> >> >> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:14:02 +0000
> >> >> From: Francis Corvin <francis_ at gmx.net>
> >> >> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
> >> >> power of open source <digikam-users at kde.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
> >> >> Message-ID: <54FCBB9A.10701 at gmx.net>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> >>
> >> >> ACDSee keeps metadata in its proprietary database by default.
> However,
> >> >> it has a command to embed them in picture files. So overall this
> should
> >> >> be doable.
> >> >>
> >> >> The only issue is whether some tags are used for the same purpose in
> >> >> DigiKam and ACDSee. In particular, ACDSee uses hierarchical
> >> >> categories---one of the most interesting features about ACDSee. Since
> >> >> no
> >> >> metadata model allows for this as standard, they use a fudge that I
> >> >> would not expect any other software to read. On a large collection,
> >> >> that
> >> >> would be a tedious manual process, unless you were good at scripting
> a
> >> >> text parser.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Francis
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 2015-03-08 16:50, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> >> >> > <pre wrap>
> >> >> > I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported
> >> >> > in
> >> >> digiKam.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Note : there are 3 situations possible :
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
> >> >> > 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
> >> >> > 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > ask me to import this information from a private database.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Gilles Caulier
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune <listen at kapune.de
> >:
> >> >> > </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
> >> >> > Hi Heikki,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my
> experience
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > that DigiKam will show them.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So what special metadata do you searching for?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database
> >> >> > outside
> >> >> of
> >> >> > photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
> >> >> photos?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Johannes
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
> >> >> > </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
> >> >> > photos
> >> >> > that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want
> to
> >> >> > change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
> >> >> > metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all
> >> >> > properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
> >> >> > Windows).
> >> >> > Heikki
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > Digikam-users mailing list
> >> >> > Digikam-users at kde.org
> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
> >> >> >
> >> >> > </pre></blockquote><pre wrap>
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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> >> >> > Digikam-users at kde.org
> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
> >> >> > </pre></blockquote><pre wrap>
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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