[Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
Alan Pater
alan.pater at gmail.com
Wed Mar 11 00:16:17 GMT 2015
Oh, a few months ago I sent in a patch to exiv2 enabling it to write to
Xmp.lr.hierarchicalSubject. That should be exiv2 0.25, due out any day now!
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Alan Pater <alan.pater at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is a sample image with Categories added with the trial version of
> ACDSee Pro 8.
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As i said previously, please share images to investigate and patch
>> digiKAm code to import categories set by ACDSee. Typically, info are
>> there :
>>
>> Categories : <Categories><Category
>> Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category
>> Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category
>> Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category
>> Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category
>> Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories>
>>
>> Gilles Caulier
>>
>> 2015-03-09 22:41 GMT+01:00 Heikki Rekki <heikkirekki at gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >> Hi Thanks Jim. I tried Exiftool and got following txt file.
>> >
>> > ExifTool Version Number : 9.89
>> > File Name : P1070219.jpg
>> > Directory :
>> > e:/6-Kuvat/1-Kamera/1-Lumix/2012/2012-04-09
>> > File Size : 3.2 MB
>> > File Modification Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
>> > File Access Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
>> > File Creation Date/Time : 2012:04:09 17:25:33+03:00
>> > File Permissions : rw-rw-rw-
>> > File Type : JPEG
>> > MIME Type : image/jpeg
>> > Exif Byte Order : Little-endian (Intel, II)
>> > Make : Panasonic
>> > Camera Model Name : DMC-FZ18
>> > Orientation : Horizontal (normal)
>> > X Resolution : 72
>> > Y Resolution : 72
>> > Resolution Unit : inches
>> > Software : Nikon Transfer 1.5 W
>> > Modify Date : 2012:04:09 17:19:10
>> > Y Cb Cr Positioning : Centered
>> > Exposure Time : 1/50
>> > F Number : 3.6
>> > Exposure Program : Program AE
>> > ISO : 200
>> > Exif Version : 0221
>> > Date/Time Original : 2012:04:09 13:36:59
>> > Create Date : 2012:04:09 13:36:59
>> > Components Configuration : Y, Cb, Cr, -
>> > Exposure Compensation : 0
>> > Max Aperture Value : 2.8
>> > Metering Mode : Multi-segment
>> > Light Source : Flash
>> > Flash : On, Fired
>> > Focal Length : 13.6 mm
>> > Warning : [minor] Possibly incorrect maker notes
>> > offsets (fix by -306?)
>> > Image Quality : High
>> > Firmware Version : 0.1.0.8
>> > White Balance : Auto
>> > Focus Mode : Manual
>> > AF Area Mode : 5-area
>> > Image Stabilization : On, Mode 2
>> > Macro Mode : Off
>> > Shooting Mode : Program
>> > Audio : No
>> > Data Dump : (Binary data 6152 bytes, use -b
>> option to
>> > extract)
>> > Flash Bias : 0
>> > Internal Serial Number : ""ÿÀ..x ..!.
>> > Panasonic Exif Version : 0230
>> > Color Effect : Off
>> > Time Since Power On : 00:01:25.12
>> > Burst Mode : Off
>> > Sequence Number : 0
>> > Contrast Mode : Normal
>> > Noise Reduction : Standard
>> > Self Timer : Off
>> > Rotation : Horizontal (normal)
>> > AF Assist Lamp : Enabled but Not Used
>> > Color Mode : Normal
>> > Optical Zoom Mode : Standard
>> > Conversion Lens : Off
>> > Travel Day : n/a
>> > World Time Location : Home
>> > Program ISO : 200
>> > Advanced Scene Type : 1
>> > Faces Detected : 0
>> > WB Shift AB : 5
>> > WB Shift GM : -1
>> > Maker Note Version : 0120
>> > Scene Mode : Off
>> > WB Red Level : 1741
>> > WB Green Level : 1054
>> > WB Blue Level : 2027
>> > Flash Fired : Yes
>> > Text Stamp : Off
>> > Baby Age :
>> > Flashpix Version : 0100
>> > Color Space : sRGB
>> > Exif Image Width : 3264
>> > Exif Image Height : 2176
>> > Interoperability Index : R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
>> > Interoperability Version : 0100
>> > Sensing Method : One-chip color area
>> > File Source : Digital Camera
>> > Scene Type : Directly photographed
>> > Custom Rendered : Normal
>> > Exposure Mode : Auto
>> > Digital Zoom Ratio : 0
>> > Focal Length In 35mm Format : 86 mm
>> > Scene Capture Type : Standard
>> > Gain Control : Low gain up
>> > Contrast : Normal
>> > Saturation : Normal
>> > Sharpness : Normal
>> > Compression : JPEG (old-style)
>> > Thumbnail Offset : 7702
>> > Thumbnail Length : 7789
>> > XMP Toolkit : XMP Core 5.1.2
>> > Rating Percent : 0
>> > Caption :
>> > Date Time : 2012:04:09 13:36:59.000
>> > Author :
>> > Notes :
>> > Tagged : False
>> > Categories : <Categories><Category
>> > Assigned="0">Ihmiset<Category Assigned="0">Oma perhe<Category
>> > Assigned="1">Marjatta</Category><Category
>> > Assigned="1">Jouni</Category></Category></Category><Category
>> > Assigned="0">Paikat<Category Assigned="1">koti<Category
>> > Assigned="1">Kouvola</Category></Category></Category></Categories>
>> > Rating : 0
>> > Label :
>> > Image Width : 3264
>> > Image Height : 2176
>> > Encoding Process : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
>> > Bits Per Sample : 8
>> > Color Components : 3
>> > Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:2 (2 1)
>> > Advanced Scene Mode : Off
>> > Aperture : 3.6
>> > Blue Balance : 1.92315
>> > Image Size : 3264x2176
>> > Megapixels : 7.1
>> > Red Balance : 1.651803
>> > Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 6.3
>> > Shutter Speed : 1/50
>> > Thumbnail Image : (Binary data 7789 bytes, use -b
>> option to
>> > extract)
>> > Circle Of Confusion : 0.005 mm
>> > Field Of View : 23.6 deg
>> > Focal Length : 13.6 mm (35 mm equivalent: 86.0 mm)
>> > Hyperfocal Distance : 10.81 m
>> > Light Value : 8.3
>> >
>> >
>> > Ican try to go on learning how I can use that. If I must extract that
>> > information separately all of my files and somehow input them to
>> DigiKam by
>> > hand, I say no thanks, it is impossible.
>> > sinc Heikki
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 16:09:01 +0000
>> >> From: Jim MacLeod <csq4u8yrvy at virginmedia.com>
>> >> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>> >> power of open source <digikam-users at kde.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Digikam-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 4
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>
>> >> <CAGRV6wzhvG=OSBjed-NyOFcfGFTEXrUKxRUScKZy0wC=EEOcwg at mail.gmail.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >>
>> >> Is it worth trying Exiftool (
>> >> http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
>> >> ) as this programme runs in Windows as well as Linux. It may allow you
>> to
>> >> see how all the metadata is stored.
>> >>
>> >> On 9 March 2015 at 14:42, Heikki Rekki <heikkirekki at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi, Thanks to all!
>> >> > I suppose, that Francis "solved" my problem. I had used ACDSee from
>> >> > version 8 and now I use ACDSeePro 7. Version 10 (if I remember
>> correct)
>> >> > ACDSee begin to embed properties into the files itself. I see that
>> like
>> >> > this: I burn some foto files to cd rom disk without any database.
>> Only
>> >> > .JPG
>> >> > file OR both .RAW files and .XMP files. Then I go and read cd with
>> >> > another
>> >> > computer, where I have installed ACDSee program. Then I give command
>> >> > Catalog files and ACDSee reads all properties from my files and put
>> them
>> >> > in
>> >> > its own database. Also sutch properties, whitch are not in the
>> database
>> >> > formerly.
>> >> > But I use, ofcourse, hierarcical categories, for instance Rekki (my
>> >> > family
>> >> > name)/Heikki (my foname), Marjatta (my wife)... and so on. In
>> windows I
>> >> > didn't find any of these categories, no in .jpg files or in .raw and
>> >> > .xmp
>> >> > files (Yes, both of yhem are in sama folder with the same filename.)
>> I
>> >> > couldn't see top categiry (Rekki) or subcategorie (Rekke/Heikki).
>> >> > If the truth is this, as Farcis sade, it is impossible to me to
>> change
>> >> > Windos to Linux, and that is very pity.[?]
>> >> > Heikki
>> >> >
>> >> > 2015-03-09 14:00 GMT+02:00 <digikam-users-request at kde.org>:
>> >> >
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> Today's Topics:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1. DigiKam and ACDSee (Heikki Rekki)
>> >> >> 2. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Johannes Kapune)
>> >> >> 3. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Gilles Caulier)
>> >> >> 4. Re: DigiKam and ACDSee (Francis Corvin)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> Message: 1
>> >> >> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 15:16:48 +0200
>> >> >> From: Heikki Rekki <heikkirekki at gmail.com>
>> >> >> To: digikam-users at kde.org
>> >> >> Subject: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
>> >> >> Message-ID:
>> >> >> <
>> >> >> CAKP1LYxuv2264URWJ8ykh+nTtS9K0QqRU_GpANq65jj0xC-OMw at mail.gmail.com>
>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
>> photos
>> >> >> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I want
>> to
>> >> >> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> >> metadata
>> >> >> (
>> >> >> all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds all properties
>> >> >> into
>> >> >> photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in Windows).
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> Message: 2
>> >> >> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:55:04 +0100
>> >> >> From: Johannes Kapune <listen at kapune.de>
>> >> >> To: digikam-users at kde.org
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
>> >> >> Message-ID: <54FC70D8.3010008 at kapune.de>
>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Heikki,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my
>> experience
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> that DigiKam will show them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So what special metadata do you searching for?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database
>> outside
>> >> >> of photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all
>> your
>> >> >> photos?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Johannes
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>> >> >> > I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
>> >> >> > photos
>> >> >> > that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I
>> want to
>> >> >> > change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> >> > metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds
>> all
>> >> >> > properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> >> >> Windows).
>> >> >> > Heikki
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > Digikam-users mailing list
>> >> >> > Digikam-users at kde.org
>> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ------------------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Message: 3
>> >> >> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 17:50:03 +0100
>> >> >> From: Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>
>> >> >> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with
>> the
>> >> >> power of open source <digikam-users at kde.org>
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
>> >> >> Message-ID:
>> >> >> <
>> >> >> CAHFG6sHZ18s2fiqHG-9KvLiHOVN0gZUK4F18SMK7wsLJQNugtA at mail.gmail.com>
>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with ACDSee.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At least, please share some image to check if metadata are imported
>> in
>> >> >> digiKam.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Note : there are 3 situations possible :
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
>> >> >> 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
>> >> >> 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do
>> not
>> >> >> ask me to import this information from a private database.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gilles Caulier
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune <listen at kapune.de>:
>> >> >> > Hi Heikki,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my
>> experience
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > that DigiKam will show them.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So what special metadata do you searching for?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database
>> >> >> > outside
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> > photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
>> >> >> photos?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Johannes
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
>> >> >> >> photos
>> >> >> >> that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I
>> want
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> >> >> metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds
>> all
>> >> >> >> properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> >> >> >> Windows).
>> >> >> >> Heikki
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> Digikam-users mailing list
>> >> >> >> Digikam-users at kde.org
>> >> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > Digikam-users mailing list
>> >> >> > Digikam-users at kde.org
>> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ------------------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Message: 4
>> >> >> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 21:14:02 +0000
>> >> >> From: Francis Corvin <francis_ at gmx.net>
>> >> >> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with
>> the
>> >> >> power of open source <digikam-users at kde.org>
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] DigiKam and ACDSee
>> >> >> Message-ID: <54FCBB9A.10701 at gmx.net>
>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ACDSee keeps metadata in its proprietary database by default.
>> However,
>> >> >> it has a command to embed them in picture files. So overall this
>> should
>> >> >> be doable.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The only issue is whether some tags are used for the same purpose in
>> >> >> DigiKam and ACDSee. In particular, ACDSee uses hierarchical
>> >> >> categories---one of the most interesting features about ACDSee.
>> Since
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> metadata model allows for this as standard, they use a fudge that I
>> >> >> would not expect any other software to read. On a large collection,
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> would be a tedious manual process, unless you were good at
>> scripting a
>> >> >> text parser.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Francis
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 2015-03-08 16:50, Gilles Caulier wrote:
>> >> >> > <pre wrap>
>> >> >> > I'm sure to have already hacked this kind of situation with
>> ACDSee.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > At least, please share some image to check if metadata are
>> imported
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> digiKam.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Note : there are 3 situations possible :
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1/ information from ACDSee are stored in image file metadata.
>> >> >> > 2/ information from ACDSee are stored in XMP sidecar.
>> >> >> > 3/ information from ACDSee are stored in database.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Only 1/ and 2/ are manageable by digiKam for interroperability. Do
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > ask me to import this information from a private database.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Gilles Caulier
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2015-03-08 16:55 GMT+01:00 Johannes Kapune <listen at kapune.de
>> >:
>> >> >> > </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
>> >> >> > Hi Heikki,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > if ACDSee really embeds all properties into photos than my
>> experience
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > that DigiKam will show them.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So what special metadata do you searching for?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You are sure that ACDSee does not store this data in a database
>> >> >> > outside
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> > photos? You try to read all metadata inside DoigiKam from all your
>> >> >> photos?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Johannes
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Am 08.03.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Heikki Rekki:
>> >> >> > </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have used ACDSeePro fewmyears now and I have some thousands on
>> >> >> > photos
>> >> >> > that I have cataloged there. ACDSee bites me in Windows and I
>> want to
>> >> >> > change to Linux users. Is there any possibility to import ACDSee
>> >> >> > metadata ( all database properties) into DigiKam? ACDSee embeds
>> all
>> >> >> > properties into photos, but I couldn't import them to DigiKam (in
>> >> >> > Windows).
>> >> >> > Heikki
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > Digikam-users mailing list
>> >> >> > Digikam-users at kde.org
>> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > </pre></blockquote><pre wrap>
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> >> >> > Digikam-users at kde.org
>> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>> >> >> > </pre></blockquote><pre wrap>
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> >> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
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