[Digikam-users] Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency

Photonoxx photonoxx at free.fr
Sat Aug 31 09:40:46 BST 2013


Ok, I build and install 3.4 yesterday and made some try this morning.

"Export" color label from Digikam to Capture NX 2 seems to work perfectly.  
Digikam write well urgency tag and Capture NX 2  take in count instantly  
(using Wine, not usable since edit windows display Red and Blue channel  
inverted, but color tag and thumbnail work well).

On the other hand there's no import of color label from Capture NX 2 even  
if no digikam color label tag exists (I mean no tag at all and not 0 value  
where indeed tag exists), but may be it's normal.

If color label is set in digikam and changed after that in Capture NX 2,  
Digikam stay at its color label and the two different values coexist until  
I tell digikam to write metadata in file, but this is more difficult to do  
I thing, and could probably have unexpected  effects in case where more  
than one color label importable tag are set with different values in each.

At less, it could be nice if label was imported when digikam color label  
doesn't exist yet, but it will have a small impact anyway, since Digikam  
seems to set color label to 0 the first time metadatas are set.


Le Fri, 30 Aug 2013 11:33:42 +0200, Gilles Caulier  
<caulier.gilles at gmail.com> a écrit:

> Ok perfect.
>
> Other test please : if you can checkout current code from git/master,
> and test if my last commit work as expected. As 3.4.0 will be released
> this sunday, i would to be sure to not break something.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2013/8/30  <photonoxx at free.fr>:
>> I just try with Capture NX2 to set a color label and it appears there's  
>> nothing write in IPTC by capture NX apparently... I have only data  
>> wrote by my camera in IPTC.
>>
>> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: photonoxx at free.fr
>> À: "digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the  
>> power of open source" <digikam-users at kde.org>
>> Envoyé: Vendredi 30 Août 2013 10:55:27
>> Objet: Re: [Digikam-users] Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency
>>
>> Perfect then, I'll just try with NX2.
>>
>> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: "Gilles Caulier" <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>
>> À: "Nicolas Boulesteix" <photonoxx at free.fr>, "digiKam - Home Manage  
>> your photographs as a professional with the power of open source"  
>> <digikam-users at kde.org>
>> Envoyé: Vendredi 30 Août 2013 08:11:47
>> Objet: Re: [Digikam-users] Digikam Color label and Photoshop urgency
>>
>> No, no need NX1. It's too old.
>>
>> I would better know LR and Aperture behavior in same conditions...
>>
>> Gilles Caulier
>>
>> 2013/8/30 Photonoxx <photonoxx at free.fr>:
>>> Wonderful,
>>>
>>> As I remember, I'm not sure Capture NX 2 set iptc anymore, but I'll  
>>> check it
>>> today.
>>>
>>> May be I could try to install Capture NX 1 and test it too (as it is  
>>> older
>>> may be it used iptc ?).
>>>
>>> Thanks for your works anyway !
>>>
>>> Le Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:09:54 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>>> <caulier.gilles at gmail.com> a écrit:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Anyway, digiKam 3.4.0 will manage XMP PHotoShop Urgency to load/save
>>>> Color Labels :
>>>>
>>>> http://commits.kde.org/digikam/8d1cd024ea8dec77c3a6f7e5f8e5d2fee1fc14f8
>>>>
>>>> I'm way your feedback about IPTC tags to manage in the same way...
>>>>
>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>
>>>> 2013/8/30 Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicolas,
>>>>>
>>>>> In IPTC there is also another tags to check :
>>>>> Iptc.Envelope.EnvelopePriority which is used in the same way than
>>>>> Iptc.Application2.Urgency...
>>>>>
>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/8/30 Gilles Caulier <caulier.gilles at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nicolas,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you check if Nikon NX patch also Iptc.Application2.Urgency tag
>>>>>> from IPTC in the same way than xmp.photoshop.urgency with Color  
>>>>>> labels
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/8/26 Photonoxx <photonoxx at free.fr>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just make a try.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I set xmp.photoshop.urgency tag with Digikam (with metadata  
>>>>>>> tool),
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> set urgency is take in count by Capture NX 2, even if a previous  
>>>>>>> color
>>>>>>> label
>>>>>>> was set in Capture NX 2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems xmp.photoshop.urgency have priority on xmp.xmp.label set  
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> Capture
>>>>>>> NX 2 too, since when I set urgency in digikam, the new color label  
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> shown
>>>>>>> in Capture NX but the original xmp.xmp.label still exist and is  
>>>>>>> set to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> old value...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le Sun, 25 Aug 2013 22:08:30 +0200, Photonoxx <photonoxx at free.fr> a
>>>>>>> écrit:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I spoke about Xmp.photoshop.urgency which have just value  
>>>>>>>> from 1
>>>>>>>> to 9
>>>>>>>> (0 value doesn't seems to exist).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think if Digikam write this tag, Capture should be able to read  
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> display a color label.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll try to set urgency in digikam (with kipi xmp editor) and see  
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> Capture NX display a color tag or not...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le Sun, 25 Aug 2013 17:05:15 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>> <caulier.gilles at gmail.com> a écrit:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, this is not exactly the same values, if we follow color  
>>>>>>>>> scheme :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> value    DK Color Label    Xmp.xmp.Label
>>>>>>>>>   0         None                       None
>>>>>>>>>   1         Red                        Red
>>>>>>>>>   2         Orange                   Orange
>>>>>>>>>   3         Yellow                    Yellow
>>>>>>>>>   4         Green                     Green
>>>>>>>>>   5         Blue                        Cyan
>>>>>>>>>   6         Magenta                  Blue
>>>>>>>>>   7         Gray                       Violet
>>>>>>>>>   8         Black                      Magenta
>>>>>>>>>   9         White                      Rose
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/8/24 Photonoxx <photonoxx at free.fr>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I already do.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> photoshop Urgency tag (as used by Capture NX) have exactly the  
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>> value as
>>>>>>>>>> digikam.colorlabel I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Instead of Xmp.digikam.colorlabel the tag is just
>>>>>>>>>> Xmp.photoshop.Urgency
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> a value starting at 1 to 9
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In my first post you can see the values.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tell me if I miss something.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le Sat, 24 Aug 2013 18:55:21 +0200, Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>>> <caulier.gilles at gmail.com> a écrit:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/8/24 Photonoxx <photonoxx at free.fr>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the answer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My will was not to see Capture NX xmp.label take in charge  
>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> totally
>>>>>>>>>>>> agree with you about the absurdity to set tag entries in  
>>>>>>>>>>>> native
>>>>>>>>>>>> language.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I most hoped it would be possible to take xmp.photoshop  
>>>>>>>>>>>> urgency in
>>>>>>>>>>>> count.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's possible. I'm always favorable to improve
>>>>>>>>>>> interoperability.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just give me the map for import Nik* Color Labels to DK. It  
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>> 10 mns to code...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> Photographe chasseur de lueurs
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.photonoxx.fr
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