[Digikam-users] half size raw preview: not available for Canon CRW or CR2?
sleepless
sleeplessregulus at hetnet.nl
Mon Oct 3 20:05:34 BST 2011
2.2.0 has the same problem.
Rinus
Op 02-10-11 19:13, sleepless schreef:
> Op 02-10-11 14:17, Anders Stedtlund schreef:
>> 2011/10/2 sleepless<sleeplessregulus at hetnet.nl>:
>>> Op 02-10-11 12:51, Anders Stedtlund schreef:
>>> Hi Anders,
>>> Thanks for your precise investigations.
>>> I prefer to figure out the problems as much as possible, so the
>>> programmers
>>> don´t loose valuable time on it. But I ran out of ideas.
>>> I forwarded this tread to the programmers in the hope for some
>>> luminous idea
>>> about what´s going on.
>>>
>>>> Hi Rinus,
>>>>
>>>> I have tested, many times, your approach but I can't reproduce your
>>>> behaviour (hope that I understood you correctly). It always says
>>>> "Embeded JPEG Preview", and the same size of the preview is shown.
>>>>
>>>> Can you reproduce both in light table and in album view?
>>> yes I can, but for the moment it keeps saying
>>> "Embeded JPEG Preview¨
>>>> I have measured with kruler and I have these figures. All measures are
>>>> the width of the image.
>>>>
>>>> My screen is 1366x768. The test image is in landscape, 3272x2178.
>>>> (Canon
>>>> SRAW1)
>>>>
>>>> In album view the preview measures around 1040 pixels. Which digiKam
>>>> says is 32% in zoom. This should give about 3250 pixels in 100%.
>>>> (Quite close)
>>>>
>>>> In light table the preview measures around 638 pixels, which digiKam
>>>> says is 19% in zoom. This should give about 3358 pixels in 100%. (A
>>>> bit over)
>>>>
>>>> I assume that the embedded preview isn't the same size, in pixels, as
>>>> the main image? Hence, I always see the main image as preview?
>>> I guess, that´s the case here indeed. Do you know if your images
>>> actually
>>> have an embedded jpeg?
>> How do I find out?
> CR2 has by default, so it will be there.
>>
>>>> Another thing I have seen during these tests is that if I have enabled
>>>> the load full-sized images for the album view and the digiKam window
>>>> is maximised, I can't have the preview smaller than slightly bigger
>>>> than "fit to window". This means that there is a scroll bar to the
>>>> right that I can scroll a pixel or so. And if I manually types e.g.
>>>> 20% zoom it immediately returns to 32%. But that might be another
>>>> problem...
>>> yes, and I found that the image sometimes is being displayed as 640%
>>> but
>>> reported as 100%.
>>>
>>> It looks like a real mess, but I hope it is not what it looks like.
>>> Best,
>>> Rinus
>>>> /Anders
>>>>
>>>> 2011/10/2 sleepless<sleeplessregulus at hetnet.nl>:
>>>>> Op 02-10-11 08:13, Anders Stedtlund schreef:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would say that for me the settings doesn't make any difference
>>>>>> actually. Not in album view, not in light table. That's odd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In album view the image is at 32% when fit to window. In light table
>>>>>> it's at 19% when fit to window.What size should I expect from the
>>>>>> embedded
>>>>>> preview?
>>>>> Hi Anders,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is completely dependent of the resolution of your screen and
>>>>> the way
>>>>> you set up your screen layout.
>>>>> The way I checked was by estimating (measuring is better) the view
>>>>> window
>>>>> against the whole screen. In my case it is about half screen
>>>>> height which
>>>>> equals aproximately 600 pixels.
>>>>> Setting photosize to 100 % I need 6 times click the slider
>>>>> downward, so
>>>>> my
>>>>> picture height size equals 3600 pixels, wich is for me the
>>>>> assurance I am
>>>>> looking at the raw picture and not at embedded preview.
>>>>> If I look at embedded preview, I need only one click to cover the
>>>>> whole
>>>>> image.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the nasty thing is I could not reproduce what I did yesterday,
>>>>> today
>>>>> it
>>>>> was only possible to view the real thing and not the embedded preview
>>>>> even
>>>>> though it kept saying ¨embedded jpeg prview¨
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But repeatedly doing for several times:
>>>>> Settings->Configure Digikam->lighttable->¨load full sized image
>>>>> DEchecked¨
>>>>> and
>>>>> Settings->Configure Digikam->album view->¨embedded preview loads
>>>>> fullsized
>>>>> images¨ DEchecked
>>>>>
>>>>> Settings->Configure Digikam->lighttable->¨load full sized image
>>>>> checked¨
>>>>> and
>>>>> Settings->Configure Digikam->album view->¨embedded preview loads
>>>>> fullsized
>>>>> images¨ checked
>>>>>
>>>>> brought it back.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can view either Raw or embedded, but it keeps saying ¨embedded jpeg
>>>>> prview¨ in either case.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would appreciate if you try to do it with repeatedly changing
>>>>> settings
>>>>> to
>>>>> see if you can change the results as I managed. We have clearly a
>>>>> problem
>>>>> here, but it is still so randomly that I can not make a useful bug
>>>>> report.
>>>>> We should at least know what we are looking at without counting
>>>>> pixels.
>>>>> Some other guy made already a report and did a withdrawel of it,
>>>>> because
>>>>> his
>>>>> problem was cured. Maybe some others will do some investigations
>>>>> in to
>>>>> this
>>>>> matter as well.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Rinus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/9/30 sleepless<sleeplessregulus at hetnet.nl>:
>>>>>>> Some investigation brougth this forward. In my case it says for PEF
>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>> embedded jpg, but I am actually looking at the RAW file.
>>>>>>> Want to try: Put the lighttable window to 100% and see the
>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> size of the slider at either settings.
>>>>>>> So it looks the message not being updated according the changed
>>>>>>> settings.
>>>>>>> Rinus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op 30-09-11 14:31, sleepless schreef:
>>>>>>>> Have you tried to set Settings->Configure
>>>>>>>> Digikam->lighttable->load
>>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>>> sized image enabled?
>>>>>>>> Makes the difference on dng anyway.
>>>>>>>> Rinus
>>>>>>>> Op 30-09-11 13:24, Gilles Caulier schreef:
>>>>>>>>> core application, through libkdcraw which embed libraw.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2011/9/30 Anders Stedtlund<falolaf at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> Is it the core application or kipi-plugins that handles this?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2011/9/30 Gilles Caulier<caulier.gilles at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>> No, 'sit the same one...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/9/30 Anders Stedtlund<falolaf at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I seem to have libraw 0.13.5. Should I use something newer?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/9/30 Gilles Caulier<caulier.gilles at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it depand of libraw to compute Raw half size preview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use all code from git master.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/9/30 Anders Stedtlund<falolaf at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I have done something wrong with my build? What would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behaviour?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't remember if it started with 2.0 or 2.1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Den 30 sep 2011 12:04 skrev "Gilles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caulier"<caulier.gilles at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It'not reproducible here. i can load CR2 half size Raw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preview,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead Embeded JPEG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/9/30 Anders Stedtlund<falolaf at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tested with a new profile but it gives me the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preview of embedded jpg.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/9/29 Anders Stedtlund<falolaf at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Emebeded preview loads full-sized images" enabled or not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/9/29 Gilles Caulier<caulier.gilles at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look in config dialog, in Album-View section, Preview
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Options.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gilles Caulier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/9/29 Anders Stedtlund<falolaf at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (And now I will finish the mail before I send it......)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jpg images says: Full Size Preview
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My setup:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digiKam 2.1.1 (built by me)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kipi-plugins 2.1.1 (built by me)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> openSuse 11.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KDE 4.7.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/9/29 Anders Stedtlund<falolaf at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm now running digiKam 2.1.1 and kipi-plugins 2.1.1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some time ago in an older version of digiKam, I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use "half
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> size raw preview". Now this seems not to be possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was this a change of puspose?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jpg images says:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Digikam-users mailing list
>>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Digikam-users mailing list
>> Digikam-users at kde.org
>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Digikam-users mailing list
> Digikam-users at kde.org
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users
>
More information about the Digikam-users
mailing list