RDF stuff in the UI (was: Re: Early file format design)

[Friedrich W. H. Kossebau]

Am Donnerstag, 30. August 2012, 20:44:12 schrieb Inge Wallin:
> On Thursday, August 30, 2012 16:20:01 Jos van den Oever wrote:
> > On 08/29/2012 11:10 PM, Inge Wallin wrote:
> > > This mail is about designing a new file format. It will be relevant to
> > > Calligra Author and possibly also for Calligra Words if Boemann wants
> > > it.
> > > 
> > > Everybody who is not interested in file formats can skip this thread.
> > 
> > I'm going to throw a potential solution out there and see if it sticks.
> > 
> > The solution: use ODT with RDF for anything that is missing from ODT.
> > I'll describe the details as they come up.
> 
> Ok, so I have read this mail several times and I realise that I don't
> understand the implications of choosing this alternative.
> 
> I have several times heard the RDF parts of Calligra described as
> "complicated" and "immature" (paraphrased) so I didn't thinkof it as an
> alternative.

I guess those comments are about what is exposed in the UI. And I would agree 
that the current state is not really user friendly, too much technical 
stuff/terms IMHO, more like experimental engineers' controls, which better are 
hidden in official releases for now, I think.

Ben, you are the driving force here, right? What are the usecases/workflows 
you are thinking of where the things you are implementing will be useful?

E.g. http://community.kde.org/Calligra/Rdf is pretty empty :) Could you dump 
your ideas and plans there? Perhaps also link to all your related blog posts, 
like http://monkeyiq.blogspot.de/2011/07/calligra-rdf-smaak.html

In general I think there is lot of potential in storing more information using 
RDF :) But that RDF is used is just a technical detail and should be hidden in 
the main UI, instead the usecases (special actions on the objects, special 
editors for the data, e.g. a location, searching on the objects, etc.) should 
have their comfort zone counterparts in the UI.
The UI to see/talk directly to the internal RDF data storage, like in the 
"Document Information" dialog, would be only shown on demand, as it is 
confusing the normal user (and thus making him feel dumb, not good :) ).

Cheers
Friedrich