Review Request: rename "import" action to "open as new"

[Jaroslaw Staniek]

On 20 August 2012 21:26, Boudewijn Rempt <boud at valdyas.org> wrote:
> On Monday 20 August 2012 Aug, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
>
>> I don't see how this saves users any keystrokes. Let's compare the task "Get
>> the content of an existing file and save it to a new file" with and without this
>> feature, with the standard shortcut settings and leaving out interaction with
>> file open and save dialogs because they are not affected.
>> With the feature:
>> Alt+F, Alt+I, [select file], [edit file], Ctrl+S
>> Without the feature:
>> Ctrl+O, [select file], [edit file], Alt+F, Alt+A
>> Exactly the same amount of keystokes. With mouse clicks, it's the same.
>>
>> If I have missed something, please correct me.
>
>
> The actual way the user will work without import is:
>
> ctrl-o, select file, alt-f, alt-a, edit, ctrl-s
>
> unless they forget that, and do
>
> ctrl-o, select file, edit, ctrl-s, ctrl-z, ctrl-z, ctrl-z, ctrl-z, ctrl-z, shit! Lost the original document, and undo doesn't go back all the way, what now?
>

Dear Boud,
This is small subset from cases when user would like to have access to
history of edits. The extra command does not deliver this access but
puts a kind of macro on top for on case.

Let 'lost original content' is more general state. Please let's plan
history of edits this or other way at some point if we really want to
invest there (I am advertising this approach for the modern days of
computer hardware).

For now the office software expect some degree of self-awarness from
users: there is  File->Versions (e.g. also in Libre Office). Combined
with change tracking it's close to giving the user some control, but
definitely it's not a tool that keep users safe from the " ctrl-s,
ctrl-z, ctrl-z, ctrl-z, ctrl-z, ctrl-z, shit!" class mistakes :)

In addition, I find it unlikely that users do not file bugs for
established software on Mac of Windows - "Open as New" is clearly not
existing there. Consider this as comfortable approach but this is a
kind of measure too. As someone working in user-oriented support for
Open Office for years - I haven't heard this particular complaint.

>
>> I agree with Jaroslaw here. Unless I missed something, there is no actual
>> advantage of using "Open as new" vs. Open + Save As. Therefore it _is_
>> redundant.
>>
>> I invite anyone to prove me wrong by telling me what that feature offers which
>> Open + Save As does not and I gladly withdraw my objection. Until then, I
>> strongly object keeping the feature in.
>
> It's easier, clearer and safer...
>
>> The new label does make sense to me, though, so if the feature stays, it
>> should be given that label.
>
> In any case, there is no patch to remove the feature; and looking at KoDocument.cpp, I don't think I want to write that patch.
>

Not a problem, it can be done...

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