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[Adam Pigg]

How about
Calligra Abaci
Calligra Worksheet (or workbook)

Im not keen on Calligra Spread, sounds a bit like some bizare sexual
position :)

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Elvis Stansvik <elvstone at gmail.com> wrote:

> Den måndagen den 21:e november 2011 skrev Sebastian Sauer<mail at dipe.org>:
>
> > On 11/21/2011 02:43 PM, C. Boemann wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It
> >>>> was a poll to cut down a list we compiled during the sprint. Out of
> that
> >>>> poll comes a suggestion. You are free to make another suggestion.
> >>>
> >>> Is that a proposal to redo the "poll / voting"? Cause else it would not
> >>> make any sense... or do you suggest to now take only Abacus (and
> Tables)
> >>> from the list + add my (and other) suggestions and then do the actual
> >>> voting on them?
> >>
> >> No need to redo. To poll was to give input into the further process. So
> I
> >> propose to take only Abacus, Spreads, Tables + add yours (and other)
> >> suggestions and then that may end in a decision (by vote or otherwise).
> >
> > Okeli. Thanks for clarification.
> >
> >>> Also I would like clarification about;
> >>> 1. Do we only take 1 (the proposal with the most votes) from the list
> or
> >>> the first 2 or 3 or... ?
> >>
> >> We take the poll and look at what people thought. Nothing more nothing
> less.
> >>
> >>> 2. What if Mek things "but I think KSpreadsheet would be a nice name
> too
> >>> but I would like to know if others from the community see it the same"?
> >>> Do we redo everything then?
> >>
> >> No we don't redo anything but anyone can make a poll about another set
> of
> >> names (including or not names from the first poll). It's input and
> provides
> >> much clearer result than many mails. Still it is Marijn's decision or
> if he
> >> defers it to a decision making vote.
> >
> > But that means we exclude him from the decision that could have taken
> place at our mailinglist (where him and me btw could have participated at)
> and not at the sprint (where neither him nor me where able to participate).
> >
> > I think doing such a finding with him together would not only increase
> the possibility for adoption but maybe would also provide valuable input to
> all of us. I mean maybe he was lately thinking that the Tables-name is not
> good too and maybe even has already an idea for an alternate name? Cannot
> harm to share here as soon as possible.
> >
> >>> 3. As basic requirement for such a voting I would like to know who is
> >>> allowed to vote. I prefer here an inclusive and not exclusive process
> >>> here. In any case it would be nice to know;
> >>
> >> I don't recall us ever having exclusive voting, so why would it be
> different in
> >> the future.
> >
> > Okeli. Well, sometimes it happens but accident. How that list of names
> was assembled is probably a good example. It just happens to exclude those
> who where not there. Surely the same can happen with a mailinglist (e.g.
> being in holidays) but then it's more the own fault to not check every few
> days mails rather then not doing a trip around the globe.
> >
> >>> a) what are the requirements to be allowed to vote?
> >>> b) I like to know who was allowed to vote so I am sure nobody was
> >>> excluded (I guess by defining point a we would already cleared that
> point)
> >>
> >> You mean the poll? All who asked were obviously sent a link to vote,
> but i'm
> >> not going to disclose emails and how people voted. If anyone think I
> excluded
> >> them they had a week to raise their voice on the ML.
> >
> > I see and I trust you on that. Still I would like to make it easy for
> anybody to give there opinion/input/ideas. That still can mean they are not
> allowed to have an actual vote but input/ideas are great to have especially
> on something like finding a name. Maybe some genius, who did not contribute
> before, shares an amazing idea for a name? Nothing is impossible (remember
> how we found the Calligra-name).
>
> Sitting on the bus reading this and got a (perhaps whacky) idea; how about
> Calligra Crunch ? :)
>
> Cheers,
> Elvis
>
>
> >
> > That's why a discussion on a mailinglist is so great. Sometimes
> bikesheding (aka as much input/ideas as possible) is what you like to have.
> See e.g. the latest KDE wallpaper-contest :-)
> >
> >>> 4. How is the counting done?
> >>
> >> Condorset rules. Don't know the exact math and don't really care. We
> have used
> >> that site before and it appears to be accepted by a wider audience as
> fair
> >
> > Ah, ok. I wasn't aware that the software does the counting. Thanks.
> >
> >>> 5. What do others think about the proposed names?
> >>
> >> Not that people aren't allowed to say so now, but the point of a vote
> is to
> >> collect such opinions in a balanced and no noise way.
> >
> > And that is where I don't agree. I already do not think a voting would
> be needed at all but in any case I think the voting comes at the very end
> of a longer process. I mean you should be able to form an opinion. That
> means input, input and more input. As more sources as better else we could
> all just do what FOX-news says and be fine.
> >
> >>>> In the end it's
> >>>> up to Marijn. He could then perhaps set up a formal election or not.
> But
> >>>> we don't have unlimited time until the first Calligra release,
> >>>
> >>> Now jaroslaw wrote there are discussions going on since more then a
> >>> year... and now shortly before the release it's pushed cause nobody was
> >>> motivated to make it a public topic for suggestion before? Now I am
> very
> >>> sure that something smells with the whole decision and voting process.
> >>
> >> It has come up on irc many times. And it makes sense to bring it up
> formally
> >> before it's too late.
> >
> > I see. So, it's a timing-problem why the process looks so wrong. That is
> very good news cause it means it's not a common issue in our decision
> making/finding but an issue in our time-management :-)
> >
> > Did anyone ping Mek on IRC about that? Is he aware? Do we have alternate
> suggestions to the rename to solve the IRC-communication / bugzilla
> problems?
> >
> >>>> and cutting away
> >>>> early ideas that never has a chance will make the rest of the
> discussions
> >>>> more qualitative.
> >>>
> >>> And add Grids, Blocks, Boxes, Flat and  "Numbers n shit" to the list of
> >>> 10 possible choices?
> >>
> >> huh?
> >>
> >
> > Well, I think neither of them really matches to the "name says what the
> application is about" idea. They are just more worse then whatever we had
> before including KSpread. Grids=painting? Blocks=building? Boxes=design?
> Flat=huh? "Numbers n shit"=okeli, a joke.
> >
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