Question about capturing webcast radio stations

[Seb Ruiz]

Dear readers,
Please read this carefully, and then consider this matter closed for discussion.

There is no problem discussing stream ripping integration in Amarok.
It is not an illegal activity to record streams. There may be a
copyright infringement depending on the circumstance of the situation,
but that is irrelevant. It may be illegal to murder someone with a
knife, but that does not make it illegal for me to own a knife or use
it in lawful circumstances. A more analogous example would be an
installation of a torrent application on my machine - having access to
it does not infer that I am using it for copyright infringement (I
could be downloading my favourite distro's iso).

Discussing enhancements to Amarok is, of course, allowed and
encouraged. Whether or not they are deemed good and worthwhile
enhancements is a different matter.

Posting material which directly exhibits copyright infringement will
not be tolerated. For example: command line applications with full
usage examples on how to "rip your favourite copyright protected
stream".

Please hold off from your own opinions as to what you "think is
lawful" in your country. If there is no explicit breach of copyright
going on then don't get too flustered by it. If you can't handle the
injustice of the world then maybe the internet isn't the place for
you.

Regards,
Seb


2009/5/25 steven robinson <cathbard at gmail.com>:
> Likely to be available for direct download perhaps but not necessarily and
> that's hardly the point. The point is that it is outrageous to make
> assumptions that all stream ripping is illegal. There are musos that support
> copyleft too and there are more and more every day. It is wrong to brand
> somebody a criminal without obtaining the facts. FOSS devs don't have a
> monopoly on free licenses - that's fact.
> So you are saying that I'm free to implement a plasmoid to rip streams but
> not free to talk about it on the list because it's off topic?? Writing a
> plasmoid for amarok2 is off topic?  So me posting that link to an amarok
> script to rip streams in amarok 1 was off topic too? WTF?? I fail to grasp
> your logic.
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Jan Holthuis <jan at holmek.de> wrote:
>>
>> Am Montag, 25. Mai 2009 08:10:59 schrieb steven robinson:
>> > There is a plugin for amarok 1 to rip streams. I haven't tried it but I
>> > am
>> > told it works well.
>> > http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=32842
>>
>> And why do you post that on the official mailing list? The Amarok
>> developers
>> have _nothing_ to do with that. It's a script written by some random
>> person
>> and it's way more helpful for all of us if you ask the person itself.
>>
>> > This sounds like a good project for somebody to write a plasma applet
>> > for
>> > amarok 2.
>>
>> Feel free to implement such a plasmoid. I'm almost sure that the Amarok
>> devs
>> won't.
>>
>> > PS: assuming that people are trying to illegally rip copyrighted content
>> > is
>> > an outrageous assertion and unworthy of this list. There is plenty of
>> > copylefted music out there. I never thought I'd hear "sharing music is
>> > always illegal" here - do you think that only programmers release their
>> > work under free licenses? I am shocked by the attitudes I am reading
>> > from
>> > some people here. Is this a FOSS list or an RIAA one?
>>
>> If the music we're talking about was under a free license, it's likely
>> that
>> you can download the tracks directly instead of ripping them from a radio
>> stream.
>>
>> > Also, talking about trying to interface amarok to a stream ripper is
>> > hardly
>> > off topic in an amarok list.
>>
>> It is.
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