Various Artists in Amarok 2.0

Jud Craft craftjml at gmail.com
Thu Dec 18 05:30:09 UTC 2008


Right, but there's not a good way to escape that assumption:  all
modern music libraries organize music at the album level.  The fact
that album names are non-unique is just plain unfortunate, but in the
end, albums are still the primary grouping of songs in digital music
collections.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Trever Fischer <wm161 at wm161.net> wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 December 2008 10:24:58 am Jud Craft wrote:
>> And now, I say again my main point:
>> > I have to agree
>> > with Stuart: My collection browser is way to full as long as collections
>> > are not grouped under »Various Artists«. Just to remind you: If you do
>> > not like that grouping, you can still select »Do not show under Various
>> > Artists«. In that case, the compilation will be split up and shown under
>> > every single artist.
>>
>> Recheck my #2 from my previous post -- my problem is that when you do
>> _exactly_ this, Amarok fails to recognize the other tracks on the
>> album.  Amarok essentially says "Either you're a compilation album or
>> you're not an album at all, because I'm not grouping different artists
>> on the same album unless you tell me to put it Under Various Artists."
>>
>> Which means that if you don't select Show under Various Artists, these
>> tracks show up under List by Artist just fine, but then when you
>> switch to List by Album, Amarok refuses to group them under the same
>> album.
>>
>> This is my point:  Amarok thinks that if you refuse to flag a
>> compilation album as such, it's not really an album.  And I think
>> that's a problem:  it means that clicking "Show under Various Artists"
>> actually does two things.
>>
>> 1.  Allows Amarok to group the tracks as an album
>> 2.  Shows the album under Various Artists.
>>
>> I'm arguing that #2 is definitely handy for people who have large
>> collections, no doubt.  But Amarok should ALWAYS do #1 -- I shouldn't
>> have to click "Show Under Various Artists" just to get Amarok to
>> realize those tracks are on the same album.
>>
>> My point is that A) Amarok should ALWAYS recognize compilations, and
>> B) Sorting these compilations under Various Artists is good, but I'd
>> prefer it to be an option, rather than mandatory, and even if you
>> don't want to do that, Amarok should still recognize the compilations
>> as albums under Album view, no matter what.
>
> This makes the assumption that album names are globally unique, which they are
> not. Its one thing to be a compilation album, and another to be two totally
> different artists which happened to release the same album name. I'm certain
> that if Bit Shifter released an album called "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap",
> AC/DC wouldn't be on there. Now, AC/DC might try and sue Bit Shifter under the
> premise that he is 'stealing' their album name so it would probably change
> later, but thats another discussion entirely.
>
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