About the toolbar discussion

Dan Meltzer parallelgrapefruit at gmail.com
Fri Feb 12 19:17:43 CET 2010


On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Thomas Lübking <thomas.luebking at web.de> wrote:
> Am Friday 12 February 2010 schrieb Jeff Mitchell:
>
>> Any thoughts about a "hidden" button that changes color when they mouse
>> over? i.e. when they mouse over the text a blue "button" fades in from
>> the grey.
> Though i don't object this and most "plain" toolbuttons work this way, it
> probably had hardly any advance over the present changing of the strings
> color/alpha directly :-(
>
> The problem rather seems to be the initial detection, not a hover feedback.
>
> Notice that we should not:
> - have "solid" buttons magically dis/appear
> - cross distinct buttons with the labels (on transition)
> - change the decoration with the string length. (Looks jumpy, text is more
> fluid than a "brick")
>
> A visual drawback of "normal" buttons are the additional (esp. horizontal)
> lines - in our case clashing with the slider.
>
> Thus we need a solution
> - with weak lower boundings
> - covering the entire width, with weak inner border as well

It also needs to give an idea of what it will do.  That mockup doesn't
make me think "if I press this roundy thing on the right, it will make
the next track come up."  I liked the arrows that Lee used for this
reason, though perhaps subtler
>
> Based upon this is a semi-mock (horribly inefficient implementation ;-)
>
> This way we'd initally fool the user towards the label "buttons" which would
> not really react as expected when being pushed. (thus allowing dragging and
> trans animations)
>
> This also implicitly sets away the menubar from the toolbar, thus we might
> (should) skip the general gradient.
>
> At this stage however, it doesn't really fit the timeslider :-\
> (we should maybe have another brght gloss there for the progress to stress it
> against the new bar)
>
> -> Happy bashing :)
>
> Cheers
>
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