Suggestion: UI keyword in subjects.

Thomas Pfeiffer colomar at autistici.org
Thu Aug 5 20:19:15 CEST 2010


> On 5 August 2010 17:51, Thomas Lübking <thomas.luebking at web.de> wrote:
> > I'm not really sure about the meaning of "accidental clicks", but 900ms
> > is a
> > quite long time.
> 
> Current default toolbar has a great feature letting users to drag songs to
> do previous/next track thing. On some touchpads its realitviely easy to
> drag too far away (one of the reasons I use USB mouse), thus getting over
> volume control. In this case it's sometimes possible to click on it
> accidentally. But its just a edge case, and animated increase (interesting
> idea, Thomas
> 
> :)) would solve this in a proper way. (0.9s was just an example time)
> :
> > > * displaying volume level in the centre of wheel, while hovering
> > > "active" area, so giving additional feedback what wil happen if you
> > > click here
> > 
> > You mean when hovering the ring area (currently only hinted by the cursor
> > shape)
> > ....
> > I'd prefer to remove the tooltip and use the button area instead
> 
> +1 for button area
> 

+1 for button from me as well.

> 
>  The eardrum thing sounds resonable ;-)
> 
> > I'd however suggest to start an "animated" volume increase nevertheless
> > (as long as the mb is down) @ eg. 1%/50ms resulting in 20%/second
> 
> As I've said, great idea + using a some sort of log (time) multiplier to
> add some acceleration would be very intuitive way (sec
> 
+1. It might really support the dial metaphor without requiring circular 
movement.

> 
> Notice that aside this (the coolbar draft includes a similar approach - the
> 
> > slider animatedly slides out of the icon and replaces the other content,
> > don't
> > think i've ever commited that, though) the _severe_ drawback of hover
> > interfaces is that they o not work with "absolute" input devices like
> > touchscreens or pens (in absolute, ie. not mouse emulating, mode)
> > 
> > This is not a big deal for sheer feedback, BUT if the functionality of an
> > elemene relies on this, one explicitly excludes a group of users.
> 
You definitely have a point here. Does anyone know how the current youtube 
player's volume control handles direct input devices?

> As tablets getting into marker quite fast, is it really good idea to make
> them eliminated?
> 
> > The flickeraffinity of hover sensitive elements (as the other Thomas
> > pointed)
> > is usually dealt with a timer and distance check (have a look at the
> > coolbar
> > in smaller sizes - that is committed ;-)
> > This basically allows an unprecise movement "along" the slider and not
> > really
> > a problem.
> 
> I'll take a look, thanks for pointing me.
> 
> p.s. will it be possible to run Amarok (or any other KDE app) on
> MeeGo/Android/Any other linux based mobile platform?
> 
> Lukas


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