Queuing - final call

[Leo Franchi]

On 19 Dec 2008, at 13:11, Bart Cerneels wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Leo Franchi <lfranchi at kde.org> wrote:
>> On 19 Dec 2008, at 08:34, Dan Meltzer wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Lydia Pintscher <lydia at kde.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Seb Ruiz <ruiz at kde.org> wrote:
>>>>> Squad,
>>>>> I'd like to get a final decision on what we do about queuing.
>>>>> Options are:
>>>>>
>>>>> A) My implementation, which is a direct clone of 1.4 functionality
>>>>> (although a little simpler atm)
>>>>> or;
>>>>> B) Bart's implementation which is quite a bit different, yet very
>>>>> interesting. Please read his mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a simple +1 A/B will do, no need to start discussing the  
>>>>> topic
>>>>> again. Please refrain from putting in your personal use cases
>>>>> here, or
>>>>> letting them make up your mind. Decide based on what you think
>>>>> will be
>>>>> the most useful as a whole to the application and the community.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll start.
>>>>>
>>>>> A +1
>>> A++;
>>
>> A+1
>>
>> Bart's implementation currently doesn't work if you have random mode
>> turned on. This seems to be like a pretty big loss of functionality
>> from 1.x.
>>
> Random mode won't be the same in a queue, since the queue determines
> the play order. So random mode would shuffle the upcoming tracks,
> either when starting playback, at user request or at the end of every
> track.
>
> The nice thing we gain is that the play history is maintained and
> visible in the queue without an additional UI. So if the user was
> happy with the random selection over the past hour or so he can save
> to be replayed later.

Shuffle != Random

If I am listening to a bunch of albums, and I want to suddenly listen  
to one song next, i could queue it up in 1.x. Now, this would be  
impossible with the first version, and with what you just said, it  
would result in shuffling the *whole* playlist (losing the pretty  
album ordering, so making the playlist explode) and me losing my  
arrangement just because i want to hear a certain track next?

leo

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