Future UI Discussion (another mockup)

Kevin Funk krf at gmx.de
Tue Dec 9 16:34:05 CET 2008


So here's what i had in mind for quite some time now.
Like it or not, feedback welcome :)

Kevin

Tuesday 09 December 2008, Kevin Funk:
> Hey,
>
> I have to say I dont like that mockup aswell as the first one. It's still
> more gray than anything else... More issues:
> * Why do we have alternating row colors in lists aswell as separators? Why
> do we want to reimplement the wheel? Its Qt/KDE's task to style the lists *
> The "advanced" button seems to be skinned. Why? See above.
> * Buttons in the context view are too big.
>
> To conclude my statement from the former "About Amarok's interface design"
> thread:
> We have far too many self styled widgets that look crappy and dont fit in
> the global KDE theme. In my opinion we should get rid off them and replace
> them with proper KDE widgets. Sorry for those who put effort into the
> current ones.
>
> I like the position of the current playing track, though. I'm going to
> create a mockup of what I (yes, me) think Amarok should look like in a few
> days. As I know we are struggling with the 2.0 release, see that as a
> background discussion.
>
> Kevin
>
> Monday 24 November 2008, Lee Olson:
> > Attached is another mockup with some new additions.
> >
> > - Lee
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Teo Mrnjavac 
<teo.mrnjavac at gmail.com>wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Dan Meltzer
> > >
> > > <parallelgrapefruit at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Mark Kretschmann
> > > > <kretschmann at kde.org>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:30 AM, Lee Olson <leetolson at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > > >>> Seeing as the user interface has been a pretty hot topic lately, I
> > >
> > > decided I
> > >
> > > >>> would go ahead and create a mockup which should hopefully resolve
> > > >>> some
> > >
> > > of
> > >
> > > >>> the issues stated in the "About Amarok's interface design" thread.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Please take a look at the attachment (which contains various minor
> > >
> > > changes,
> > >
> > > >>> which are not quite perfect yet) and reply to this thread with
> > > >>> ideas / comments that we can use in the future of Amarok's design.
> > > >>> Please keep
> > >
> > > in
> > >
> > > >>> mind that this is a long-term project and will be worked on
> > >
> > > step-by-step to
> > >
> > > >>> achieve something that a majority can agree with.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hopefully this mockup will provide as a good visual that we can
> > > >>> discuss
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > >>> step-by-step, create a nice interface without completing another
> > > >>> full overhaul.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for your mockup. I have to say I much prefer Nuno's original
> > > >> "overlapping" design for the control buttons. It gives Amarok 2 a
> > > >> unique look, almost like a logo. And I don't see major usability
> > > >> issues with it.
> > > >
> > > > There was a commenter on the amarok insider article that took a good
> > > > deal of time to detail the issues with the buttons, as well as other
> > > > artwork related issues... I'll just link it, rather than copying what
> > > > he said. http://amarok.kde.org/en/comment/reply/565/11283
> > > >
> > > >> Also I prefer the current look of the slider widgets.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Again I would like to remind everyone that right now is not the
> > > >> perfect time to dicuss such things. We are very very close to _the_
> > > >> most important Amarok release in years, and we have our hands full
> > > >> with fixing the remaining showstopper bugs. I think we should all
> > > >> focus on that right now.
> > > >
> > > > This is long term discussion, as lee pointed out.  We seem to like to
> > > > change the UI around in amarok by just throwing stuff in there and
> > > > tweaking it, drowning out objectors by saying "but its a work in
> > > > progress!!"  This method allows us to come up with a solution before
> > > > it gets implemented, so that everyone knows where we are going and
> > > > how it's going to get there.  I don't see anything wrong with
> > > > starting the dicussion now, and then not acting on it until after
> > > > 2.0...
> > >
> > > Oh hell yeah finally separated buttons.
> > > How about making them smaller and putting them on top as they were
> > > half a year ago?
> > > Then there would be some room for analyzers in the top left above the
> > > progress bar and some more room for love/ban/buy/whatever buttons in
> > > the top right along with the volume slider.
> > >
> > > Like this:
> > > |||   analyzers   |||    OOOO   oooo    volume
> > >
> > > ================================
> > >
> > > Also I need to restate that I think it would look better and be more
> > > consistent with the oxygen style to have white background for the
> > > playlist and the collection.
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