[plasma-mobile] config: Refine app blacklist

[Thomas Pfeiffer]

 On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:10:38 +0200, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
>> > kpackagekit - probably mostly for geeks ?
>
> Decided against during sprint.

 I remember that as well. But I also vaguely recall that we decided
 we need _some_ means to get updates and to dist-upgrade, is that 
 correct?
 In that case we'd need either a stripped-down version of kpackagekit 
 that only
 allows updating or something new that does just that.
 Or have we settled on "Let novice users just get a new image when PA2 
 comes
 out and leave them with the release versions until then and have 
 advanced
 users use Konsole"? I'm not sure.
 
>> > konsole - probably mostly for geeks
>
> Oversight, see below.

 Ok.
 
>> > systemsettings
>
> Decided against during the sprint.
 
 Most parts of Systemsettings actually are useless, but we need some way 
 to
 do things like time, timezone and region, see "first start experience".

>>  I agree with Sune here. Many entries here seemed to me like "we 
>> want
>>  nothing that was not specifically
>>  designed for Active". Of course in the end we want the system to be
>>  populated with Active apps only,
>>  but until then I think for many cases traditional apps that work 
>> okay
>>  with touch would be better than
>>  nothing.
>
> We also want to highlight apps that work really well, not just so-so. 
> The
> blacklist is not just about removing completely broken apps, it's 
> also about
> putting really good apps in the spotlight.
>
> As such, I've chosen to only include a few apps, to make reviewers' 
> lives
> easier. Better have a few that really shine than too many and the 
> good ones
> get lost among mediocre apps.
 
 Okay, so it seems I got the priorities of PA1 wrong. When I think 
 "product",
 as Aaron suggested, I think "Useful, Usable and Enjoyable" and would 
 emphasise
 "useful" more. But if for PA1 the focus is on "showing our interaction
 principles and giving people something to experience them", it is 
 probably
 better to hide the "okay-working" apps.

> konsole was added back in the next commit, a few seconds later.
 
 Alrighty then ;)

>>  Gwenview is another example Sure it is not nice to have two apps 
>> for
>>  the same purpose, but Gwenview has
>>  some pretty useful features that Images still lacks, like rotating 
>> or
>>  slideshow. The usecase
>>  "show fotos directly imported from a camera on my tablet in a pub"
>>  depends on Gwenview for rotating images
>
> We decided to focus on this use case for PA2.

 Sure and I'm convinced we'll come up with something much more 
 tablet-friendly
 than Gwenview in PA2. I just thought "better have something than 
 nothing",
 but under the circumstances stated above, I'm okay with leaving it out.

> The Image viewer is pretty good already, I'd rather not introduce a
> duplicate
> app at this point, rotating and the other things gwenview adds are 
> just not
> that critical right now.
>
>>  Is only the desktop version of marble blacklisted and the mobile 
>> one
>>  still available? Marble has been added
>>  to the meego images specifically recently and is even
>>  multitouch-enabled, so I guess basyskom would be pretty
>>  sad if it got blacklisted ;) But if the one on the meego image is 
>> the
>>  mobile version and it is not blacklisted,
>>  everything is okay there.
>
> Seems an oversight from me, that's why I sent this email.

 Okay. I just wasn't sure whether there are different desktop files for
 the desktop and mobile versions, but if it was just an oversight, no
 problem.

> I haven't gone through the plasmoid blacklist, so the one in there is
> totally
> random.

 Ah okay, that's why. So should we help with that right now or are you 
 going
 to go through it as well and then we'll comment like with the apps 
 blacklist?

> Note that these blacklist is not entirely static, it's rather easy 
> for power
> users to change it (just copy it into your ~/.kde4/share/config/ and 
> edit
> away, the next plasma-device restart will show the results).

 Ah, I see, good to know. I actually thought it was static.

 Regards,
 Thomas