remove or keep the activity view in the window list

Karlheinz Hohm Karlheinz.Hohm at basyskom.de
Fri Sep 23 13:19:15 UTC 2011


 

On September 23, 2011 at 2:34 PM "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo at kde.org> wrote:

> On Friday, September 23, 2011 14:17:54 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > On Friday 23 September 2011 13:41:50 Marco Martin wrote:
> > > On Friday 23 September 2011, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > > > > ok, let's run with it as-is for now and i'll play a bit today with
> > > > > how
> > > > > the activity view is presented in the listing.
> > > >
> > > > I'd also vote for keeping the homescreen in the window strip (or what
> > > > was
> > > > the official word for it? We definitely need to get our glossary written
> > > > down soon!), for the reasons Marco mentioned: The homescreen should not
> > >
> > > +1 ;) probably something like peek or task peek since the whole panel
> > > would
> > > be peek and launch
> >
> > I think Aaron already had ideas about the names, we just all (including
> > himself) kept confusing them during the sprint ;)
>
> i had personally settled on "home screen". it's what it is often called on
> other devices, it's where you start off at, etc. however, Fania was not happy
> with that name, so i'm in a bit of a limbo over it :)
>
> Fania used the term "activity view" which is good for me. we do need to get
> consensus on this VERY soon, however.
>
> > > > Another thing: I'd really like to see the ability to switch back to the
> > > > last window shown when pressing the homescreen-button to the right of
> > > > the
> > > > bar again after switching to the homescreen. Being able to switch back
> > > > and forth between homescreen and application easily would be pretty
> > > > nice imo.
> > >
> > > would let a really fast workflow yeah :)
> > > (wouldn't there be problems with a button that changes its function btw?)
> >
> > Maybe we'd need to change the icon to indicate that, but I'm not sure.
> > Compare it to alt-tab. It switches both ways between to windows as well.
>
> i don't want to work on this anymore for Plasma Active One, since the best
> idea i can think of requires a lot more work. what would be nice is for it to
> become a software version of the "Back" button seen on many phones these days.
>
> iow, it would send a message to the current app, if any, to go "back" one
> step; if the app does not have anything to "back" to (or doesn't support this)
> then it would return you to the home screen.
>
> one of the current limitations of the "back" on current devices is you never
> REALLY know what it will return you to and it is easy to pile up a HUUUUGE
> list of things in the "back" that are no longer relevant to you.
>
> for now, i'd like to just leave it as-is and consider working on this as a
> bigger project sometime in the future.
>yes, we should leave it as it is now for PA One, not bring in risks within our
>short time frame, anyway there is still enough to do atm to fix the issues we
>found I think
 
Cheers,
Karlheinz.
 

> an easier change would be to let the button change its icon depending on where
> you are:
>
> * when in an application, it shows the contour logo and brings you to the
> activity view
>
> * when viewing the activity, it shows the old "grid" icon and when tapped
> shows the peek and launch
>
> i'm a little concerned about a button that changes its UI like that, but it's
> plausible and the kind of change that could be made quite easily. i'd defer to
> Fania before attempting it, though. Fania: what do you think?
>
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