[Ktechlab-devel] Porting to Qt 4 --> I'd like to help

Wed Feb 11 19:00:42 UTC 2009

Hi everyone,

First of all, sorry that it took  me a couple of days to reply to this
particular thread, second, thanks a lot for your feedback. I really
appreciate it. =)

I'd like to also say that I'm as well in favor of a redesign or
rewrite of the code wherever it is necessary, and the reason why I
didn't started such a task myself is because, how I stated on my first
e-mail, I'm only in the first learning stage. I actually started
learning C++ just on mid-December and it is not that I already have
programming experience with others languages, because I already tried
Python for example, but couldn't find it interesting (I'm really
liking C++ though), so I still have ahead of me tasks as, besides
learning the language, also learning the use of the Qt libraries,
learn good programming style, design and debugging skills, learn how
to use CMake, KDevelop and Designer. Of course the list goes on but
I'll leave it there so I don't panic. =P

Bottom line is, that IMO, I won't be able to contribute any actual
useful code for at least a couple of months. So, by this means I'd
like to ask you to please don't save words when describing the work
you're doing. =)

I'd like to tell you as well to please don't hesitate to throw at me
any "homework" you might think can be useful for my learning process,
as well as for the project. I'll be also following the bugs to learn
from them.

This doesn't mean at all that I'll be going mute, I'll keep helping on
what's at my reach, like with the site and ideas that I might have.
But I wanted to let you know why I haven't said anything else about
this, mostly because I don't want anybody to interpret this as a lack
of interest on my side.

Finally, I'd like to state that I'm really happy to see where KTechLab
is heading right now. =D

Regards,
Juan

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Richard Rondu <rondu.richard at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Julian Bäume <julian at svg4all.de> wrote:
>> On Monday 09 February 2009 16:35:48 P Zoltan wrote:
>>> On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:11:41 +0100, Julian Bäume <julian at svg4all.de> wrote:
>>> >> The idea of integrating it with kdevelop to a greater extent is
>>> >> interesting and has a great deal of potential... (wonder if you could
>>> >> flowpart a C program or something. =P)
>>> >
>>> > It won't integrate directly into kdevelop, just use some of their
>>> > infrastructure. But basically your right, of course.
>>>
>>>   Does this mean that besides kdelibs, kdevelop will also be a dependency
>>> of ktechlab? That won't make non-kde users happy.
>> Nope, not KDevelop. It would be KDevPlatform, which is a quite small lib used
>> by programms that provide IDE-like functionality. I'm not sure, if it's really
>> needed, or we should ship the needed parts from the lib ourselfes. I'm playing
>> around with it to find out.
>>
>>> >> But it is good dicipline to keep to the smallest number of incremental
>>> >> changes at a time, even if the intermediate results aren't optimal.
>>> >
>>> > True, but hard to manage if each change you need to do is a quite large
>>> > step
>>> > in the project.
>>>
>>>   Base on what I've seen in the code, I prefer a rewrite. (an the KDE guy
>>> also did the same :)) ). But first, we need a _design_, instead of
>>> starting coding directly.
>> +1 ;)
>
> +1
>>
>>> >> Right now the tree is frozen for release. I'm not sure what the best
>>> >> practices are with SVN, but I hope the SVN administrator will create a
>>> >> 0.4 fork as soon as possible so that the multitude of efforts at the 4.x
>>> >> port can be integrated and testing can begin.
>>> > There already is a branch in SVN containing the next stable release.
>>>   Since the release-candidate version is branched separately, we could mess
>>> up the trunk, right? :D
>> Before we do that, I suggest to create another branch for a new feature
>> release for the KDE3 version. This should be 0.4 and the last larger
>> development branch for KDE3. ATM trunk is tagged as 0.4, so it would only mean
>> to copy/move the trunk.
>>
>>>   My opinion is that we should start a new "trunk" for the kde4 port from
>>> zero, and when it reaches the level of functionalty of the 0.3 versions,
>>> that should become the new trunk version.
>> We can do that, also this would mean, that trunk will be unuseable for some
>> time. But well, this will IMHO push the development of a KDE4 version.
>>
>> bye then
>> julian
>>
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