Several entries accounted twice

Kevin Burkwood kevin.burkwood at gmail.com
Thu Aug 19 07:45:40 BST 2021


Thank you Thomas for putting in the time to help me.

I will try to answer you in the order of your responses/questions.

My initial enquiry in blue,your response in black,my further response in 
red.

On 19/08/2021 5:08 am, Thomas Baumgart wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> On Mittwoch, 18. August 2021 05:39:35 CEST Kevin Burkwood via KMyMoney wrote:
>
>> Hi KMyMoney users, I have a problem for which I cannot find any 
>> answers in the forums. I'm a reasonably new user of KMyMoney and have 
>> been pleasantly surprised with it. But, recently, it changed the 
>> opening balance line in such a way that the deposit figure is correct 
>> but the balance figure is different.
> It (i.e. KMyMoney) certainly does not change anything by itself without
> user intervention. Since you don't mention the version you use(5.0.6), I can only
> provide some generic hints. Did you change the sort order of the ledger?
> You can do that by right clicking on the header. Double clicking on an
> entry in the right column of the sort options dialog changes between
> ascending and descending.(I have tried this back and forth to no avail)
> Are those 4 entries you talk about show up before the opening balance transaction?(no)
>
> Then the behavior is normal, as the balance is calculated and not stored
> in a persistent manner. Does the total balance match the one of the real
> account?(no, it always matches what it should + the addition of the 4 entries 
> as if they are in there twice)
>
>
>> through much searching, I have found that the difference between 
>> these two values is as if 4 later entries were duplicated as if they 
>> were done prior to the opening balance being added. These 4 entries 
>> were all put in one after the other on the same date with other 
>> entries both before and after them on that same date. the 4 entries 
>> are still recognised in the correct place (they are all counted 
>> twice). I have tried deleting and re-entering them but this makes no 
>> difference as the error in the opening balance line till remains.
> I doubt it is an error ;) I don't exactly understand what you explain here.
> If you can, provide a screenshot and black the sensitive areas.

Further, the 4 entries are still only in their correct place in the ledger:

The errant entries are +560.00  - 395.90 + 25.50 - 25.90 = 163.70
Which matches the difference between 7,756.23 and 7,919,93; the amount 
by which the  opening balance is wrongly increased.

It is to be noted that the 4 entries were originally put in in 
succession but are now separated due to my efforts to fix the error by 
deleting them and re-entering them (to no avail).

Further, when I try to create a report (e.g. Transaction Report), these 
4 entries do appear twice each (with the correct dates).


Note that one of the entries originally had Nisbetts incorrectly spelled 
and I corrected this in the ledger when I deleted and re-entered it 
which corrected the ledger but the report still contained the original 
deleted entry plus the new corrected entry.

Thanks again for your efforts Thomas.

PS
(in case you are wondering, the accounts are for a retirement village 
social club for which I volunteered to do the books)

Thanks, Kevin.

>> Can anyone please help?
> We certainly try.
>
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