[Appeal] new member

[Eva Brucherseifer]

On Sunday 03 April 2005 19:41, Stephan Binner wrote:
> On Friday 01 April 2005 21:20, Eva Brucherseifer wrote:
> > And to be honest - in Berlin I didn't really see a vision.
>
> I think you were too optimistic if you went there and expected to walk home
> with a ready to publish "vision document". The more I heard about it the
> more difficult it seemed to me to conceive one more or less ad-hoc for KDE.

That's not what I wanted to say. I didn't expect us to come back and have a 
vision. But this is also the important point. It's not that we are there yet, 
and that is what I wanted to say. Therefore we cannot even really write large 
vision documents, we can only try to get the best creative people together 
and to do them weird things. And hopefully we have some things coming out of 
this which are innovative and at the same time implementable.

We still need a statement on the goal of the appeal project soon (and this 
statement is not the vision document).

>
> "Apple obviously has a desktop with a vision, but I cannot tell you which
> one" is one funny thing I remember. Another one is the vision which Novell
> just got for itself and which people have problem to understand. :-)
>
> > Don't we have the right people or do we need to work harder?
>
> Abstracting and extrapolating a vision(ary) document doesn't seem to be an
> easy task and throwing more people at it will likely not help much. Someone
> mentioned as realistic time frame six weeks for vision and mockups iirc.

This is the difficult thing with creative ideas - they cannot be planned ;-)

>
> About the meeting, there maybe could have been two or three big gatherings
> per day (but then not each 3-4h :) and this or that hours less hacking/talk
> about current concrete usability problems in applications to advance a bit
> further.

Ack. The discussions have been very fruitful, at least to me. (But also the 
ones in smaller gatherings ;-) 

Greetings,
eva

>
> Bye,
>    Steve
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