[kde] [Bug 466107] In many KDE applications, there's no obvious way of re-enabling the menu bar and the toolbar unless you remember a keyboard shortcut

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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=466107

--- Comment #2 from guimarcalsilva at gmail.com ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1)
> If you hide both the menubar and all toolbars, we assume you're a technical
> expert who wants the most minimal UI possible, which is why it's permitted.
> 
> Regardless, the assertion is actually not correct; in Konsole, Gwenview, and
> Dolphin, if you hide both the menubar and the toolbar, you can still get to
> the menubar in the context menu, from which you can re-enable the hidden UI
> elements. So there is in fact a way to get them back without remembering a
> keyboard shortcut.
> 
> Clearly you didn't find this so maybe it's not enough. But I struggle to
> think of something that would be better. At a certain point, you have to let
> adventurous users explore and potentially break things.

Hm, I totally missed(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1)
> If you hide both the menubar and all toolbars, we assume you're a technical
> expert who wants the most minimal UI possible, which is why it's permitted.
> 
> Regardless, the assertion is actually not correct; in Konsole, Gwenview, and
> Dolphin, if you hide both the menubar and the toolbar, you can still get to
> the menubar in the context menu, from which you can re-enable the hidden UI
> elements. So there is in fact a way to get them back without remembering a
> keyboard shortcut.
> 
> Clearly you didn't find this so maybe it's not enough. But I struggle to
> think of something that would be better. At a certain point, you have to let
> adventurous users explore and potentially break things.

I missed the menu on the context menu because I really didn't expect it to move
there. I should have investigated more before trying to file a  bug report (and
writing a wall of text in the process 😆).

Maybe any state where the menu gets hidden should show a message telling the
user it can still be accessed with the context menu, the same way there's a
message that tells you the keyboard shortcut to bring back the menu.

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