[Bug 187154] Add kuser, ksystemlog, kinfocenter and ksysguard as kcm modules to be accessible via KDE4 system-settings

Angel Blue01 angel_blue_co2004 at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 15 01:15:21 GMT 2009


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=187154





--- Comment #18 from Angel Blue01 <angel_blue_co2004 yahoo com>  2009-03-15 02:15:14 ---
(In reply to comment #17)
> - Windows is not a Desktop Environment, it's an operating system. The
> configuration tools allow setting the whole system.
> 
> - KDE is a Desktop Environment, the configuration modules in systemsettings
> allow changing the way _KDE_ is working.
> 
> That's why I don't think KUser should have a KCM. (Kgrubeditor is a 3rd party
> application, that's why there's one.)
What about the KDM KCM -to users KDM isn't part of KDE, its part of "the
system"?

Samba isn't a KDE application either but there's a KCM in systemsettings.

There's a display KCM.

You can change the date and time, very much a system setting, in KDE as well.

> About ksystemlog, kinfocenter and ksysguard, those 3 applications have no
> effect on the KDE settings and have nothing to do in systemsettings. Read  the
> comment #1 again.

I think the problem is that I, and I admit I seem to be the only one, that
don't  see the main control panel as by nature DE-specific, non-application
settings including users, passwords, packages, as well as KDE settings should
be accessible from the same place. The division that at least SUSE makes with
Yast of "system settings" (which imply root) vs DE-specific settings (which are
user-specific) is very artifical to me as a user, if I was a newbie to
computers this would very very confusing.

I installed Gnome to get a sense on comparison for what a DE control panel has,
and at least in SUSE, its control center is a mix of "system" and "user"
settings. Granted, it does not have any equivalents of kinfocenter or
ksysguard, but I might not have these utilities installed. Could someone
confirm if this is just a SUSE layout please?

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