From software-eng at cridermcdowellfamily.com Sun May 12 23:31:51 2024
From: software-eng at cridermcdowellfamily.com (J. Allen Crider)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 17:31:51 -0500
Subject: How do I delete an entry I can't open?
Message-ID: <3bab4b94-823c-4f9d-a978-3480fb9997af@cridermcdowellfamily.com>
I imported the metadata into my music collection from an album that was
ripped to FLAC by SoundKonverter and now whenever I select that album to
look at it or modify it, Tellico freezes and all I can do is close the
application. Everything else seems to work fine until I click on the
album title in either view.
The only obvious difference between the files for this album and most
others in my collection is that SoundKonverter downloaded lyrics and
other information and placed it in the Description field. I went back
and looked at the files in Kid3 and discovered that the Description
field had a large number of slashes at the end of it and I suspect that
is causing the problem (that may also explain why I couldn't rip the CD
using K3b). I have modified that description field using Kid3 and
imported the album again and the second copy works fine. But I can't
figure out a way to remove the original entry. Any ideas?
Allen Crider
From jbreland at legroom.net Mon May 13 02:06:07 2024
From: jbreland at legroom.net (Jared Breland)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 20:06:07 -0500
Subject: How do I delete an entry I can't open?
In-Reply-To: <3bab4b94-823c-4f9d-a978-3480fb9997af@cridermcdowellfamily.com>
References: <3bab4b94-823c-4f9d-a978-3480fb9997af@cridermcdowellfamily.com>
Message-ID: <5fd296ee-93d8-4aec-b938-fa54d9c87d93@legroom.net>
Tellico's collection files (.tc) are simply zip files containing an XML
file, which holds the data. You can open that file in any editor,
search for the problematic album, and delete the entry. For example, I
have an album named "A View from the Top of the World" that looks like this:
A View from the Top of the World
Dream Theater
Just delete from to , save the file, update the copy in
the tc/zip file, and you should be good to go.
If you're not used to editing files like this, definitely recommend
making a copy of your original tc file first and testing on that.
Jared Breland
jbreland at legroom.net
https://www.legroom.net/
On 5/12/24 17:31, J. Allen Crider wrote:
> I imported the metadata into my music collection from an album that
> was ripped to FLAC by SoundKonverter and now whenever I select that
> album to look at it or modify it, Tellico freezes and all I can do is
> close the application. Everything else seems to work fine until I
> click on the album title in either view.
>
> The only obvious difference between the files for this album and most
> others in my collection is that SoundKonverter downloaded lyrics and
> other information and placed it in the Description field. I went back
> and looked at the files in Kid3 and discovered that the Description
> field had a large number of slashes at the end of it and I suspect
> that is causing the problem (that may also explain why I couldn't rip
> the CD using K3b). I have modified that description field using Kid3
> and imported the album again and the second copy works fine. But I
> can't figure out a way to remove the original entry. Any ideas?
>
> Allen Crider
>
From robby at periapsis.org Mon May 13 02:14:45 2024
From: robby at periapsis.org (Robby Stephenson)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 21:14:45 -0400
Subject: How do I delete an entry I can't open?
In-Reply-To: <5fd296ee-93d8-4aec-b938-fa54d9c87d93@legroom.net>
References: <3bab4b94-823c-4f9d-a978-3480fb9997af@cridermcdowellfamily.com>
<5fd296ee-93d8-4aec-b938-fa54d9c87d93@legroom.net>
Message-ID:
Allen,
Jared's suggestion probably works best if Tellico is unable to edit or
delete the entry directly.
Would you be willing to email the file to me directly, the one that has the
issue? I'd like to see if I can fix the bug that causes the freezing.
Thanks,
Robby
On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 9:06 PM Jared Breland wrote:
> Tellico's collection files (.tc) are simply zip files containing an XML
> file, which holds the data. You can open that file in any editor,
> search for the problematic album, and delete the entry. For example, I
> have an album named "A View from the Top of the World" that looks like
> this:
>
>
> A View from the Top of the World
>
> Dream Theater
>
>
>
>
> Just delete from to , save the file, update the copy in
> the tc/zip file, and you should be good to go.
>
> If you're not used to editing files like this, definitely recommend
> making a copy of your original tc file first and testing on that.
>
> Jared Breland
> jbreland at legroom.net
> https://www.legroom.net/
>
> On 5/12/24 17:31, J. Allen Crider wrote:
> > I imported the metadata into my music collection from an album that
> > was ripped to FLAC by SoundKonverter and now whenever I select that
> > album to look at it or modify it, Tellico freezes and all I can do is
> > close the application. Everything else seems to work fine until I
> > click on the album title in either view.
> >
> > The only obvious difference between the files for this album and most
> > others in my collection is that SoundKonverter downloaded lyrics and
> > other information and placed it in the Description field. I went back
> > and looked at the files in Kid3 and discovered that the Description
> > field had a large number of slashes at the end of it and I suspect
> > that is causing the problem (that may also explain why I couldn't rip
> > the CD using K3b). I have modified that description field using Kid3
> > and imported the album again and the second copy works fine. But I
> > can't figure out a way to remove the original entry. Any ideas?
> >
> > Allen Crider
> >
>
>
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From software-eng at cridermcdowellfamily.com Mon May 13 03:51:38 2024
From: software-eng at cridermcdowellfamily.com (J. Allen Crider)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 21:51:38 -0500
Subject: How do I delete an entry I can't open?
In-Reply-To: <5fd296ee-93d8-4aec-b938-fa54d9c87d93@legroom.net>
References: <3bab4b94-823c-4f9d-a978-3480fb9997af@cridermcdowellfamily.com>
<5fd296ee-93d8-4aec-b938-fa54d9c87d93@legroom.net>
Message-ID: <7085b492-278d-46ce-a7da-b3521b72767d@cridermcdowellfamily.com>
That enabled me to solve the problem. Somehow the cddb entry that
SoundKonverter downloaded had been really messed up with one line
containing well over 2 million back slashes and several other lines that
had too many back slashes as well. I attempted to edit the xml file
with kate, but it had difficulty with the longest line. However, once I
knew which line was the culprit, I was able to go to it in vi and delete
it. From there, it wasn't much trouble to get rid of the rest of the entry.
Thank you,
Allen Crider
On 5/12/24 20:06, Jared Breland wrote:
> Tellico's collection files (.tc) are simply zip files containing an XML
> file, which holds the data. You can open that file in any editor,
> search for the problematic album, and delete the entry. For example, I
> have an album named "A View from the Top of the World" that looks like
> this:
>
>
> A View from the Top of the World
>
> Dream Theater
>
>
>
>
> Just delete from to , save the file, update the copy in
> the tc/zip file, and you should be good to go.
>
> If you're not used to editing files like this, definitely recommend
> making a copy of your original tc file first and testing on that.
>
> Jared Breland
> jbreland at legroom.net
> https://www.legroom.net/
>
> On 5/12/24 17:31, J. Allen Crider wrote:
>> I imported the metadata into my music collection from an album that
>> was ripped to FLAC by SoundKonverter and now whenever I select that
>> album to look at it or modify it, Tellico freezes and all I can do is
>> close the application. Everything else seems to work fine until I
>> click on the album title in either view.
>>
>> The only obvious difference between the files for this album and most
>> others in my collection is that SoundKonverter downloaded lyrics and
>> other information and placed it in the Description field. I went back
>> and looked at the files in Kid3 and discovered that the Description
>> field had a large number of slashes at the end of it and I suspect
>> that is causing the problem (that may also explain why I couldn't rip
>> the CD using K3b). I have modified that description field using Kid3
>> and imported the album again and the second copy works fine. But I
>> can't figure out a way to remove the original entry. Any ideas?
>>
>> Allen Crider
>>
>
From bgee at campercaver.net Mon May 20 20:08:47 2024
From: bgee at campercaver.net (Bill Gee)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 14:08:47 -0500
Subject: Odd behavior under Wayland
Message-ID:
I am seeing some odd behavior when running Tellico under Wayland. This
is fairly easy to reproduce. It does not happen when running under X.org.
Open a music database, then File - Import - Import Audio CD Data. As
the import proceeds, the main Tellico window changes its color palette
to what looks like monochrome - Black and White! Text can still be
read, but most of the decorations and controls disappear.
Switching away from Tellico to another application and then back will
restore the color palette.
The system is Fedora 40, nouveau display driver, Wayland window manager,
and Tellico 3.5.4 as packaged in the Fedora repository
This is annoying but not a show-stopper.
--
===============
Bill Gee
From robby at periapsis.org Fri May 24 02:29:07 2024
From: robby at periapsis.org (Robby Stephenson)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 21:29:07 -0400
Subject: Odd behavior under Wayland
In-Reply-To:
References:
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On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 3:09 PM Bill Gee wrote:
> I am seeing some odd behavior when running Tellico under Wayland. This
> is fairly easy to reproduce. It does not happen when running under X.org.
>
Thanks, Bill. I've been testing KDE Plasma 6 with Wayland but haven't run
Tellico 3.5 or KDE Frameworks 5 yet. I'll see if I can check into it.
Do you see any similar behavior with any other KDE applications?
Robby
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From bgee at campercaver.net Mon May 27 12:48:55 2024
From: bgee at campercaver.net (Bill Gee)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 06:48:55 -0500
Subject: Odd behavior under Wayland
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Sorry about the delay getting back on this ... I have been out the last
few days having fun in a cave.
I have not seen this exact behavior with any other application. The
genealogy program GRAMPS has some anomolies in Wayland mostly related to
how it saves and restores the size and position of its main and child
windows.
For what it is worth, here is was the System Settings tool says about my
system. The graphics processor is actually an nVidia GT710.
Operating System: Fedora Linux 40
KDE Plasma Version: 6.0.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.1.0
Qt Version: 6.7.0
Kernel Version: 6.8.8-300.fc40.x86_64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: Wayland
Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i5 CPU 760 @ 2.80GHz
Memory: 15.6 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: NV106
Manufacturer: Supermicro
Product Name: C7SIM-Q
System Version: 0123456789
===============
Bill Gee
On 5/23/24 20:29, Robby Stephenson wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 3:09 PM Bill Gee > wrote:
>
> I am seeing some odd behavior when running Tellico under Wayland. This
> is fairly easy to reproduce. It does not happen when running under
> X.org.
>
>
> Thanks, Bill. I've been testing KDE Plasma 6 with Wayland but haven't
> run Tellico 3.5 or KDE Frameworks 5 yet. I'll see if I can check into it.
>
> Do you see any similar behavior with any other KDE applications?
>
> Robby
From bgee at campercaver.net Wed May 29 19:32:53 2024
From: bgee at campercaver.net (Bill Gee)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 13:32:53 -0500
Subject: Odd behavior under Wayland
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Update -
Today I moved my workstation to a completely different computer. No
reinstall, I just moved the hard drives. The new system has an Intel
display. Everything came up just like it should.
This Tellico problem is still there. I think the hardware display
driver can be eliminated as the problem.
===============
Bill Gee
On 5/23/24 20:29, Robby Stephenson wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 3:09 PM Bill Gee > wrote:
>
> I am seeing some odd behavior when running Tellico under Wayland. This
> is fairly easy to reproduce. It does not happen when running under
> X.org.
>
>
> Thanks, Bill. I've been testing KDE Plasma 6 with Wayland but haven't
> run Tellico 3.5 or KDE Frameworks 5 yet. I'll see if I can check into it.
>
> Do you see any similar behavior with any other KDE applications?
>
> Robby