From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Tue Mar  1 17:35:00 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 1 Mar 2011 18:35:00 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] S4 slots
In-Reply-To: <201102282013.30240.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
References: <201102282013.30240.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Message-ID: <201103011835.03788.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi,

On Monday 28 February 2011, meik michalke wrote:
> i have another feature favour to ask: could you make slots of S4 class
> objects tab-completable, too?

true, that's still missing. Could you add it to the feature request tracker 
for now? This will take a bit of thought to get right, and I intend to look 
into one or two other things, first.

Regards
Thomas
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From yayopoint at gmail.com  Fri Mar  4 15:02:05 2011
From: yayopoint at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Necochea?=)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:02:05 -0400
Subject: [rkward-devel] (no subject)
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=1dmCzO9S3PFvwqVChJRkbYwEwpJrEVP65DCmA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi. This is a suggestion for present a bidimensional contingency table
in rkward using an R function.

The function take a xtable as argument and returns a html code to put
in the rk_out.html

This is the function:
html.crosstab <- function(x, calcs="")
{
  row.sum <- margin.table(x,1)
  row.sum.p <- (row.sum / sum(row.sum)) * 100
  row.sum.p <- paste(round(row.sum.p, 2), "%")

  col.sum <- margin.table(x,2)
  col.sum.p <- (col.sum / sum(col.sum)) * 100
  col.sum.p <- paste(round(col.sum.p, 2), "%")

  #calcule the props for analysis
  if("t" %in% calcs)
    tot.p.x <- round(prop.table(x)*100, 2)
  if("r" %in% calcs)
    row.p.x <- round(prop.table(x, 1)*100, 2)
  if("c" %in% calcs)
    col.p.x <- round(prop.table(x, 2)*100, 2)

  #Begin to write the table
  t <- "<table border=1>"
  #Header
  t <- paste(t, "<tr><td colspan=2>Tabla</td><td colspan=", dim(x)[2],
">", attr(dimnames(x)[2], "names"), "</td><td
rowspan=2>Frecuencia</td><td rowspan=2>Porcentaje</td></tr>", sep="")
  t <- paste(t, "<tr><td colspan=2>", attr(dimnames(x)[1], "names"),
"</td>", sep="")
  t <- paste(t, paste("<td>", dimnames(x)[[2]], "</td>", sep="",
collapse=""), sep="")
  t <- paste(t, "</tr>", sep="")

  #Make the rows for each variable
  for (i in 1:dim(x)[1])
  {
    ifelse(calcs[1] != "", rowspanData <- paste(" rowspan=",
length(calcs)+1), rowspanData <- "")
    t <- paste(t, "<tr><td", rowspanData,">", dimnames(x)[[1]][i],
"</td><td>Freq</td>", sep="")
    t <- paste(t, paste("<td>", x[i,], "</td>", sep="", collapse=""), sep="")
    t <- paste(t, "<td", rowspanData, ">", row.sum[i],"</td>", "<td",
rowspanData,">", row.sum.p[i],"</td>")
    t <- paste(t, "</tr>", sep="")

    if("t" %in% calcs)
      t <- paste(t, "<tr><td>Total%</td>", paste("<td>", tot.p.x[i,],"
%</td>", sep="", collapse=""), "</tr>")
    if("r" %in% calcs)
      t <- paste(t, "<tr><td>Fila%</td>", paste("<td>", row.p.x[i,],"
%</td>", sep="", collapse=""), "</tr>")
    if("c" %in% calcs)
      t <- paste(t, "<tr><td>Col%</td>", paste("<td>", col.p.x[i,],"
%</td>", sep="", collapse=""), "</tr>")
  }

  t <- paste(t, "<tr><td colspan=2>Frecuencia</td>", paste("<td>",
col.sum,"</td>", sep="", collapse=""), "<td>", sum(col.sum), "</tr>",
sep="")
  t <- paste(t, "<tr><td colspan=2>Porcentaje</td>", paste("<td>",
col.sum.p,"</td>", sep="", collapse=""),"</td></tr>", sep="")


  #End of Table
  t <- paste(t, "</table>", sep="")
  t
}

takes two arguments:
x: a contingency table or crosstabulation (xtable)
calcs: a vector containing the characters c (for column percentage), r
(row%), t (total%) and/or e (chisq expected, not implemented)

here is an example of usage:

# First make the data
gender <- rbinom(100,1,0.5)
gender <- factor(gender, labels=c("male", "female"))
opinion <- rbinom(100,3,0.25)
opinion <- factor(opinion, labels=c("very bad", "bad", "good", "excellent"))

# Now make the crosstab, I prefer xtabs instead of table
tab <- xtabs(~ opinion + gender)

# And now print the table
# The output will include row and column percentage
rk.results(html.crosstab(tab, calcs=c("r", "c"))

I hope that you like this function and wish that could be include in
the N to 1 Crosstabulation plugin. If you like this function I expect
coments or suggestions.

-- 
Amor y Paz
 _    _
 \\  //
_ \\//
\\   ^^>
 \____/

CHAU



From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Sun Mar  6 12:31:09 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 6 Mar 2011 13:31:09 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=1dmCzO9S3PFvwqVChJRkbYwEwpJrEVP65DCmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=1dmCzO9S3PFvwqVChJRkbYwEwpJrEVP65DCmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201103061331.13791.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi,

On Friday 04 March 2011, Andr?s Necochea wrote:
> Hi. This is a suggestion for present a bidimensional contingency table
> in rkward using an R function.

thanks for sharing your work with us. This would certainly be a useful 
addition to the crosstabulation plugin. However, I'm not quite sure, this is 
the right way to do it. I have two main concerns. The first is that this mixes 
"calculating" and "printing" (i.e. formatting of output) into single function. 
The second is that I'm always a bit reluctant to add too much functionality 
into RKWard itself, which could reasonably be useful in a different context, 
too (in this case, perhaps this could be placed in the R2HTML package). 
Generally, we try to offer a GUI to R functions, not R functions.

Well, let's ignore the second concern for now. Perhaps my first concern could 
be addressed by re-structuring a bit: What if we look at the desired output as 
three-dimensional table, instead: frequency, total%, row%, and col% would 
simply be treated as sub-divisions of each level of the "independent" 
("Opinion", in your example). The two trailing columns for Frequency and 
Percentage would be turned into a single column "Sum", which has the same sub-
divisions as all other cells (sum of row% and col% would always be 100% , 
here, of course).

This would allow to split the problem into two parts: First, producing a three 
dimensional table with four "layers", second, turning that table into HTML. 
The first part would be something like:

  y <- c (x, prop.table (x), x / c(margin.table (x, 1)), x / margin.table (x, 
2))
  dim (y) <- c (dim (x), 4)
  dimnames (y) <- c (dimnames (x), list (c ("Frequency", "% of total", "% of 
row", "% of column")))
  y <- addmargins (y, seq_along (dim (x))

Admittedly this does not look terribly elegant (I wish there was something 
like cbind() for tables), but now everything is in one table. Now the 
remainder would be to write a generic function that will print a three-
dimensional table. The good thing about this is that a) it could be extended 
to include additional statistics in a straight-forward way, and b) the 
printing function might be useful in other use-cases, too.

What do you think of this idea?

Regards
Thomas
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Fri Mar 11 10:22:25 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 11 Mar 2011 11:22:25 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] Packagers: RKWard 0.5.5-rc1 is ready
Message-ID: <201103111122.25660.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi!

RKWard 0.5.5-rc1 is ready, and available from http://rkward.sf.net/temp/0.5.5-
rc1/ . This is primarily intended for packagers, so you can start working on 
packages. The version number is already set to "0.5.5", and barring a major 
problem, this is going to be identical to the final release. However, up until 
the official release (scheduled for March, 15), if a grave problem shows up, 
there could still be last-minute changes, without prior announcement. 
Therefore, either
- wait until the official release before publishing your packages, or
- make sure your package's version number contains an indication that this is 
a release-candidate.

Regards
Thomas
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Sat Mar 19 17:52:26 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 19 Mar 2011 18:52:26 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] [rkward-announce] RKWard 0.5.5 is released
Message-ID: <201103191852.31177.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi!

With a few days delay, I have uploaded RKWard 0.5.5, today. A short summary of 
the changes, as well as a link to the download page, can be found at 
http://rkward.sf.net , as usual.

Many thanks to all who have helped with this release in various ways!

---

A note to users of the Ubuntu daily builds:
Daily builds of the development sources are created on launchpad as usual 
(https://launchpad.net/~rkward-devel/+archive/rkward-dailys). Due to a problem 
with the version naming scheme, there could be a problem with apt / synaptic 
not recognizing the latest dailys as newer than those from a few weeks ago. 
The latest daily packages are versioned "-0.5.5z-0.5.6-0daily...". Check your 
package manager to see whether you may need to update the package, manually.

Regards
Thomas
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Sun Mar 20 12:10:50 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 20 Mar 2011 13:10:50 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] [rkward-announce] RKWard 0.5.5 is released
In-Reply-To: <1300620290.5411.4.camel@cyan.pingoured.fr>
References: <201103191852.31177.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<1300620290.5411.4.camel@cyan.pingoured.fr>
Message-ID: <201103201310.54865.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi Pierre,

please send replies to rkward-devel, instead of rkward-announce. The latter is 
meant to be a very low volume list, for announcements, only. I'm quoting your 
full mail below, so no need to re-send, though.

On Sunday 20 March 2011, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 18:52 +0100, Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote:
> > With a few days delay, I have uploaded RKWard 0.5.5, today.
> 
> Dear Thomas,
> 
> I was updating the rkward package for Fedora this morning and I noticed
> two new files:
>    /usr/bin/rkward.rbackend
>    /usr/share/config/rkward.knsrc
> 
> The first one surprises me a bit. Do we really add a new file
> in /usr/bin? I could not see it mentioned on the ChangeLog and it does
> not seem to have a man page as well. Could you let me know the purpose
> of this file ?

The relevant ChangeLog entry is "GUI frontend and R backend now run in 
separate processes". This is the binary for the backend process.

You may be right in that it does not really belong in /usr/bin/ , since it is 
not meant to be invoked directly by users. However, I'm also not sure, where 
it should go, instead. /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/ ?

(And of course the same point could always have been made for rkward.bin, 
too).

> The second one seems to be a configuration file but I am confused by its
> location. Why not having it on /etc ?

It is installed in ${CONFIG_INSTALL_DIR}. This file is not meant to be edited 
by users.

> In addition when I look at it on the tarball I am not sure what it is
> doing. It sets a "InstallPath=.rkward/plugins/" but that's not true
> from /usr/share/config. It might be from /usr/share but I'm not even
> sure.

The installPath is relative to the user's home directory. See 
http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/K_Hot_New_Stuff2 .

> Thanks in advance for your help,
> Best regard,
> Pierre

Regards
Thomas
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From pingou at pingoured.fr  Sun Mar 20 12:23:58 2011
From: pingou at pingoured.fr (Pierre-Yves Chibon)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:23:58 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] [rkward-announce] RKWard 0.5.5 is released
In-Reply-To: <201103201310.54865.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <201103191852.31177.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<1300620290.5411.4.camel@cyan.pingoured.fr>
	<201103201310.54865.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Message-ID: <1300623838.5411.8.camel@cyan.pingoured.fr>

On Sun, 2011-03-20 at 13:10 +0100, Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
> 
> please send replies to rkward-devel, instead of rkward-announce. The latter is 
> meant to be a very low volume list, for announcements, only. I'm quoting your 
> full mail below, so no need to re-send, though.

It was actually meant to be sent to you directly (I cancelled my posting
to the announce mailing-list as soon as I realized it was the wrong
email).

> On Sunday 20 March 2011, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 18:52 +0100, Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote:
> > > With a few days delay, I have uploaded RKWard 0.5.5, today.
> > 
> > Dear Thomas,
> > 
> > I was updating the rkward package for Fedora this morning and I noticed
> > two new files:
> >    /usr/bin/rkward.rbackend
> >    /usr/share/config/rkward.knsrc
> > 
> > The first one surprises me a bit. Do we really add a new file
> > in /usr/bin? I could not see it mentioned on the ChangeLog and it does
> > not seem to have a man page as well. Could you let me know the purpose
> > of this file ?
> 
> The relevant ChangeLog entry is "GUI frontend and R backend now run in 
> separate processes". This is the binary for the backend process.
> 
> You may be right in that it does not really belong in /usr/bin/ , since it is 
> not meant to be invoked directly by users. However, I'm also not sure, where 
> it should go, instead. /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/ ?

I believe this would be a better place as in /usr/bin it will for sure
be confusing.

> (And of course the same point could always have been made for rkward.bin, 
> too).

Indeed.

> > The second one seems to be a configuration file but I am confused by its
> > location. Why not having it on /etc ?
> 
> It is installed in ${CONFIG_INSTALL_DIR}. This file is not meant to be edited 
> by users.
> 
> > In addition when I look at it on the tarball I am not sure what it is
> > doing. It sets a "InstallPath=.rkward/plugins/" but that's not true
> > from /usr/share/config. It might be from /usr/share but I'm not even
> > sure.
> 
> The installPath is relative to the user's home directory. See 
> http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/K_Hot_New_Stuff2 .

Ok, so no problem for this file.

Thanks for your quick answer,

Best regards,
Pierre



From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Sun Mar 20 12:34:49 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 20 Mar 2011 13:34:49 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] [rkward-announce] RKWard 0.5.5 is released
In-Reply-To: <1300623838.5411.8.camel@cyan.pingoured.fr>
References: <201103191852.31177.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<201103201310.54865.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<1300623838.5411.8.camel@cyan.pingoured.fr>
Message-ID: <201103201334.49816.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi,

On Sunday 20 March 2011, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> It was actually meant to be sent to you directly (I cancelled my posting
> to the announce mailing-list as soon as I realized it was the wrong
> email).

yes, I should have waited another minute, then I would have seen it.

> > You may be right in that it does not really belong in /usr/bin/ , since
> > it is not meant to be invoked directly by users. However, I'm also not
> > sure, where it should go, instead. /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/ ?
> 
> I believe this would be a better place as in /usr/bin it will for sure
> be confusing.

Ok, I'll keep this in mind for 0.5.6. Is that ok for the time being?

It is not quite trivial to fix the location, unfortunately (at least not for 
rkward.bin).
 
Regards
Thomas
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From pingou at pingoured.fr  Sun Mar 20 12:46:02 2011
From: pingou at pingoured.fr (Pierre-Yves Chibon)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:46:02 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] [rkward-announce] RKWard 0.5.5 is released
In-Reply-To: <201103201334.49816.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <201103191852.31177.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<201103201310.54865.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<1300623838.5411.8.camel@cyan.pingoured.fr>
	<201103201334.49816.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Message-ID: <1300625162.5411.13.camel@cyan.pingoured.fr>

On Sun, 2011-03-20 at 13:34 +0100, Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote:
> > > You may be right in that it does not really belong in /usr/bin/ ,
> > > since it is not meant to be invoked directly by users. However, 
> > > I'm also not sure, where it should go,instead. 
> > > /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/ ?
> > 
> > I believe this would be a better place as in /usr/bin it will for 
> > sure be confusing.
> 
> Ok, I'll keep this in mind for 0.5.6. Is that ok for the time being?

Can I safely move the /usr/bin/rkward.rbackend ?

> It is not quite trivial to fix the location, unfortunately (at least
> not for rkward.bin). 

Otherwise I will keep it this way for this release and we can move it
for the next.

Thanks,
Pierre



From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Sun Mar 20 12:49:33 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 20 Mar 2011 13:49:33 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] [rkward-announce] RKWard 0.5.5 is released
In-Reply-To: <1300625162.5411.13.camel@cyan.pingoured.fr>
References: <201103191852.31177.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<201103201334.49816.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<1300625162.5411.13.camel@cyan.pingoured.fr>
Message-ID: <201103201349.36825.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

On Sunday 20 March 2011, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> Can I safely move the /usr/bin/rkward.rbackend ?

No. Unless you also adjust the way it is looked up in 
rkward/rbackend/rkfrontendtransmitter.cpp around line 66.

Regards
Thomas
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From meik.michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de  Sun Mar 20 14:59:03 2011
From: meik.michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de (meik michalke)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:59:03 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] version numbers for daily builds
Message-ID: <201103201559.08429.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>

hi,

i've noticed that i didn't get daily builds for a while (ubuntu 10.10); the 
latest package i got was 0.5.5-0daily-3043-201103081339~maverick1. maybe you 
would like to check that on your machines, too.

i don't knwo about apt-get, but aptitude must to be baffled by the change in 
version numbers (to "0.5.5z-0.5.6-0daily-..."):

<snip>
m at yrla ~ $ sudo aptitude update 
[...]
m at yrla ~ $ sudo aptitude safe-upgrade 
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
</snip>

it can be fixed by manually setting the package version you want to install. 
however, aptitude considers it a downgrade:

<snip>
m at yrla ~ $ sudo aptitude install 
rkward=0.5.5z-0.5.6-0daily-3052-201103201217~maverick1

The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
  rkward 
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 downgraded, 0 to remove and 0 not 
upgraded.
Need to get 1370kB of archives. After unpacking 12.3kB will be used.
Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/rkward-devel/rkward-dailys/ubuntu/ 
maverick/main rkward amd64 0.5.5z-0.5.6-0daily-3052-201103201217~maverick1 
[1370kB]
Fetched 1370kB in 2s (582kB/s)   
dpkg: warning: downgrading rkward from 
0.5.5-0daily-3043-201103081339~maverick1 to 
0.5.5z-0.5.6-0daily-3052-201103201217~maverick1.
(Reading database ... 398251 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace rkward 0.5.5-0daily-3043-201103081339~maverick1 (using 
.../rkward_0.5.5z-0.5.6-0daily-3052-201103201217~maverick1_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement rkward ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
Processing triggers for menu ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Setting up rkward (0.5.5z-0.5.6-0daily-3052-201103201217~maverick1) ...
Processing triggers for menu ...
</snip>

maybe we can find some more robust versioning scheme for the dailies.


viele gr??e :: m.eik

-- 
dipl. psych. meik michalke
institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie
abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie
heinrich-heine-universit"at 40225 d"usseldorf
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Sun Mar 20 18:49:51 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 20 Mar 2011 19:49:51 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] version numbers for daily builds
In-Reply-To: <201103201559.08429.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
References: <201103201559.08429.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Message-ID: <201103201949.57459.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi,

On Sunday 20 March 2011, meik michalke wrote:
> i've noticed that i didn't get daily builds for a while (ubuntu 10.10); the
> latest package i got was 0.5.5-0daily-3043-201103081339~maverick1. maybe
> you would like to check that on your machines, too.
> 
> i don't knwo about apt-get, but aptitude must to be baffled by the change
> in version numbers (to "0.5.5z-0.5.6-0daily-..."):

yes, that's the problem. See also the bottom of the 0.5.5 announcement mail.
 
> maybe we can find some more robust versioning scheme for the dailies.

Acutally, I had changed the versioning scheme after running into problems with 
the previous one. Anyway, it seems I did not check good enough. The core 
problem appears to be that the dpkg version check gets confused by too many 
dashes in the version name. I have now replaced most dashes with "+", and my 
tests using
  dpkg --compare-version
give more robust results, now. Let me know, if problems remain.

Regards
Thomas
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From meik.michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de  Sun Mar 20 20:21:55 2011
From: meik.michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de (meik michalke)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:21:55 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] version numbers for daily builds
In-Reply-To: <201103201949.57459.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <201103201559.08429.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
	<201103201949.57459.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	(sfid-20110320_195104_390538_A85B6BBA)
Message-ID: <201103202122.01918.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>

hi,

am Sonntag 20 M?rz 2011 (19:49) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> > i don't knwo about apt-get, but aptitude must to be baffled by the change
> > in version numbers (to "0.5.5z-0.5.6-0daily-..."):
>
> yes, that's the problem. See also the bottom of the 0.5.5 announcement
> mail. 

ouch, that line i missed ;-)

> > maybe we can find some more robust versioning scheme for the dailies.
> 
> Acutally, I had changed the versioning scheme after running into problems
> with  the previous one. Anyway, it seems I did not check good enough. The
> core problem appears to be that the dpkg version check gets confused by
> too many dashes in the version name.

it seems to assume that "z" comes before "-". if that's true, the moment any 
stable 0.5.5-* versioned package appears in another repo, you'd be stuck with 
that one.

> I have now replaced most dashes with "+", and my tests using
>   dpkg --compare-version
> give more robust results, now. Let me know, if problems remain.

ok, i'll see what happens when the repo gets updated.


viele gr??e :: m.eik

-- 
dipl. psych. meik michalke
institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie
abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie
heinrich-heine-universit"at 40225 d"usseldorf
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Mon Mar 21 08:20:49 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 21 Mar 2011 09:20:49 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] [rkward-announce] RKWard 0.5.5 is released
In-Reply-To: <1300625162.5411.13.camel@cyan.pingoured.fr>
References: <201103191852.31177.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<201103201334.49816.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<1300625162.5411.13.camel@cyan.pingoured.fr>
Message-ID: <201103210920.53881.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi!

rkward.bin (renamed to rkward.frontend) and rkward.rbackend both get installed 
to `kde4-config --path libexec` in the SVN version, now.

On Sunday 20 March 2011, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> > Ok, I'll keep this in mind for 0.5.6. Is that ok for the time being?
> 
> Can I safely move the /usr/bin/rkward.rbackend ?

If you want to fix it for 0.5.5, the easiest solution is to move *both* 
rkward.bin and rkward.rbackend. Then, the only thing you need to adjust is the 
wrapper script (/usr/bin/rkward) itself. (That's the solution I ended up with 
after trying a few not-so-elegant ones.)

Regards
Thomas
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Mon Mar 21 11:27:11 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 21 Mar 2011 12:27:11 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] version numbers for daily builds
In-Reply-To: <201103202122.01918.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
References: <201103201559.08429.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
	<201103201949.57459.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<201103202122.01918.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Message-ID: <201103211227.15414.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi,

On Sunday 20 March 2011, meik michalke wrote:
> it seems to assume that "z" comes before "-". if that's true, the moment
> any stable 0.5.5-* versioned package appears in another repo, you'd be
> stuck with that one.

actually, most of the time this is not a problem. Try
    dpkg --compare-versions 0.5.5z-1 ">" 0.5.5-1 && echo "true"
. Only once you start adding several more more dashes in the version name, 
strange things start happening.

> > I have now replaced most dashes with "+", and my tests using

So that's why I hope with the "+" instead of "-" this will not be an issue in 
the future. For the short term, I hope to have tricked the version check by 
adding another dot, i.e.: 0.5.5.z+.... Now I'm just waiting for a successful 
build...

Regards
Thomas
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From Meik.Michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de  Mon Mar 21 12:31:45 2011
From: Meik.Michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de (meik michalke)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:31:45 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] RKWard 0.5.5 is released
In-Reply-To: <201103191852.31177.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <201103191852.31177.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Message-ID: <201103211331.50264.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>

hi,

Am Samstag, 19. M?rz 2011, 18:52:26 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> With a few days delay, I have uploaded RKWard 0.5.5, today. A short summary
> of  the changes, as well as a link to the download page, can be found at
> http://rkward.sf.net , as usual.

you didn't mention the KHNS feature, was that intended?

i just tried the installer bundle on windows. i did the installation as 
administrator (had to manually correct the path in rkward.bat after that) and 
then launched RKWard as a normal user. there i needed to manually point to 
all.pluginmap, although RKWard offered the correct directory by itself.

however, the KHNS plugin installation doesn't seem to work on windows. there's 
no error, just an empty ~/.rkwrad/plugins directory is being created, nothing 
else. the one and only plugin available is corretly shown though, but it's of 
no real consequence to press the "install" button. it still works on GNU/linux 
as expected. i'm not a windows guy, so there's just two hypotheses: a) windows 
can't handle .tar.gz (must we add tar/gzip to the bundle?) and quietly fails 
at unpacking, b) some security feature prevents the archive to be downloaded 
in the first place, without further notice.


viele gr??e :: m.eik

-- 
  dipl. psych. meik michalke
  abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie
  institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie
  heinrich-heine-universit"at d"usseldorf
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Mon Mar 21 14:13:11 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 21 Mar 2011 15:13:11 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] RKWard 0.5.5 is released
In-Reply-To: <201103211331.50264.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
References: <201103191852.31177.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<201103211331.50264.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Message-ID: <201103211513.14532.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi,

On Monday 21 March 2011, meik michalke wrote:
> you didn't mention the KHNS feature, was that intended?

oops. No, sorry, I simply forgot about it. Well, this goes to show that I 
could use a bit of help with that whole release process, esp. with writing all 
those announcments, release schedules, etc.

So are you looking for a new position as "release coordinator"?

> i just tried the installer bundle on windows. i did the installation as
> administrator (had to manually correct the path in rkward.bat after that)

Ah, indeed. I forgot a step, here. I'll try to correct it, later today.

> and then launched RKWard as a normal user. there i needed to manually
> point to all.pluginmap, although RKWard offered the correct directory by
> itself.

Will have to investiate.

> however, the KHNS plugin installation doesn't seem to work on windows.
> there's no error, just an empty ~/.rkwrad/plugins directory is being
> created, nothing else. the one and only plugin available is corretly shown
> though, but it's of no real consequence to press the "install" button. it
> still works on GNU/linux as expected. i'm not a windows guy, so there's
> just two hypotheses: a) windows can't handle .tar.gz (must we add tar/gzip
> to the bundle?) and quietly fails at unpacking, b) some security feature
> prevents the archive to be downloaded in the first place, without further
> notice.

Will have to investigate.

Regards
Thomas
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From heiko.tietze at apliki.de  Tue Mar 22 09:52:33 2011
From: heiko.tietze at apliki.de (Heiko Tietze)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:52:33 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] Build from svn
Message-ID: <201103221052.33531.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>

Hi all,

a month or two ago I was running built process flawless but currently it 
fails. Probably it's my fault with any config setting but cmake doesn't offer 
too much of them ;-).

Kind regards,
Heiko.

cd /usr/local/src/rkward
svn up -> 3493
cd build, cmake ../rkward/, make, sudo make install -> no error

rkward
/usr/local/bin/rkward: Zeile 53: /usr/local/bin/kde4-config: Datei oder 
Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
/usr/lib64/R/bin/Rcmd: Zeile 65: /rkward.frontend: Datei oder Verzeichnis 
nicht gefunden
/usr/lib64/R/bin/Rcmd: Zeile 65: exec: /rkward.frontend: Kann nicht ausf?hren: 
Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden

sudo ln -s /usr/bin/kde4-config /usr/local/bin/kde4-config
/usr/lib64/R/bin/Rcmd: Zeile 65: /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec//rkward.frontend: 
Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
/usr/lib64/R/bin/Rcmd: Zeile 65: exec: 
/usr/lib64/kde4/libexec//rkward.frontend: Kann nicht ausf?hren: Datei oder 
Verzeichnis nicht gefunden

R
> version
platform       x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu                    
arch           x86_64                                      
os             linux-gnu                                   
system         x86_64, linux-gnu                           
status         Patched                                     
major          2                                           
minor          12.2                                        
year           2011                                        
month          03                                          
day            09                                          
svn rev        54732                                       
language       R                                           
version.string R version 2.12.2 Patched (2011-03-09 r54732)

-- 

Dr. Heiko Tietze
Senior-Consultant
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Tue Mar 22 10:07:02 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 22 Mar 2011 11:07:02 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] Build from svn
In-Reply-To: <201103221052.33531.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
References: <201103221052.33531.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
Message-ID: <201103221107.03202.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi,

On Tuesday 22 March 2011, Heiko Tietze wrote:
> a month or two ago I was running built process flawless but currently it
> fails. Probably it's my fault with any config setting but cmake doesn't
> offer too much of them ;-).

[...]

> /usr/local/bin/rkward: Zeile 53: /usr/local/bin/kde4-config: Datei oder
> Verzeichnis nicht gefunden

this was a side-effect of moving the auxiliary binaries out of /usr/bin/. I've 
tried a different solution, now, so please try again after an "svn up".

Regards
Thomas
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From meik.michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de  Tue Mar 22 10:30:16 2011
From: meik.michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de (meik michalke)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:30:16 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] RKWard 0.5.5 is released
In-Reply-To: <201103211513.14532.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <201103191852.31177.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<201103211331.50264.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
	<201103211513.14532.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	(sfid-20110321_191033_586125_0DA71EEE)
Message-ID: <201103221130.23375.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>

hi,

am Montag 21 M?rz 2011 (15:13) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> > you didn't mention the KHNS feature, was that intended?
> 
> oops. No, sorry, I simply forgot about it. Well, this goes to show that I 
> could use a bit of help with that whole release process, esp. with writing
> all  those announcments, release schedules, etc.
> 
> So are you looking for a new position as "release coordinator"?

well, i'm flattered ;-) but i'd rather jump in spontanously when my time 
allows for it, than applying for new positions. at least for the time being, 
as i'm really busy writing a new R package for my thesis work (which will 
later get its own RKWard plugin, of course; it deals with (psycho)linguistics 
this time). right now is just not the time for me for making further promises, 
sorry :-/ but well, don't give up on me yet....


viele gr??e :: m.eik

-- 
dipl. psych. meik michalke
institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie
abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie
heinrich-heine-universit"at 40225 d"usseldorf
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From heiko.tietze at apliki.de  Tue Mar 22 10:33:34 2011
From: heiko.tietze at apliki.de (Heiko Tietze)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:33:34 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] Build from svn
In-Reply-To: <201103221107.03202.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <201103221052.33531.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
	<201103221107.03202.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Message-ID: <201103221133.34525.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>

Am Dienstag, 22. M?rz 2011, 11:07:02 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> this was a side-effect of moving the auxiliary binaries out of /usr/bin/.
> I've tried a different solution, now, so please try again after an "svn
> up".

Installation runs without problems. On startup the error "RKWard either could 
not find its resource files at all..." pops up. If I try to set workspace a 
scripting error occurs "file '/home/tietze/rkward/phpfiles/common.js' needed 
by '/usr/local/share/apps/rkward/00saveload/setworkdir.js' could not be 
found". There are no other settings available in menu (which I want to look at 
first).



From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Tue Mar 22 11:32:53 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 22 Mar 2011 12:32:53 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] Build from svn
In-Reply-To: <201103221133.34525.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
References: <201103221052.33531.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
	<201103221107.03202.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<201103221133.34525.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
Message-ID: <201103221232.57081.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

On Tuesday 22 March 2011, Heiko Tietze wrote:
> Installation runs without problems. On startup the error "RKWard either
> could not find its resource files at all..." pops up. If I try to set
> workspace a scripting error occurs "file
> '/home/tietze/rkward/phpfiles/common.js' needed by
> '/usr/local/share/apps/rkward/00saveload/setworkdir.js' could not be
> found". There are no other settings available in menu (which I want to
> look at first).

Hm. I am not aware of any relevant change that might have caused a difference 
at this point. Perhaps try removing the link to "kde4-config" that you made in 
/usr/local/bin . Does that help?

In general, you should either install to /usr (
  cmake [...] -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
), or make sure to set your KDEDIRS environment variable to contain /usr/local 
(
  KDEDIRS=/usr/local:/usr
).

Regards
Thomas
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From heiko.tietze at apliki.de  Tue Mar 22 12:52:58 2011
From: heiko.tietze at apliki.de (Heiko Tietze)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:52:58 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] Build from svn
In-Reply-To: <201103221232.57081.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <201103221052.33531.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
	<201103221133.34525.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
	<201103221232.57081.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Message-ID: <201103221352.58585.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>

Am Dienstag, 22. M?rz 2011, 12:32:53 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> On Tuesday 22 March 2011, Heiko Tietze wrote:
> 
> Hm. I am not aware of any relevant change that might have caused a
> difference at this point.
Perhaps some older files were not deleted by "make uninstall". I found 
rkward.bin and rkward.rbackend at /usr/local/bin (dated from 2011/01/24) and 
several files below /usr/lib64/R/library/. After deleting all that stuff and 
recompiling with your recommended setting "-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr" rkward 
runs like a charm (Version 0.5.5.z+0.5.6+test1). 
Thanks a lot, Thomas!



From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Tue Mar 22 13:54:56 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 22 Mar 2011 14:54:56 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] Build from svn
In-Reply-To: <201103221352.58585.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
References: <201103221052.33531.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
	<201103221232.57081.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<201103221352.58585.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
Message-ID: <201103221455.00085.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi,

On Tuesday 22 March 2011, Heiko Tietze wrote:
> Perhaps some older files were not deleted by "make uninstall". I found
> rkward.bin and rkward.rbackend at /usr/local/bin (dated from 2011/01/24)
> and several files below /usr/lib64/R/library/.

yes, unfortunately make uninstall is not perfect, esp., after moving files 
around.

> After deleting all that
> stuff and recompiling with your recommended setting
> "-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr" rkward runs like a charm (Version
> 0.5.5.z+0.5.6+test1).

Good.

However, I also had another idea how to make it work when installed to the 
/usr/local prefix, so you could give that another try after an svn up, too, if 
you like.

Regards
Thomas
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From heiko.tietze at apliki.de  Wed Mar 23 08:31:46 2011
From: heiko.tietze at apliki.de (Heiko Tietze)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 09:31:46 +0100
Subject: [rkward-devel] Build from svn
In-Reply-To: <201103221455.00085.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <201103221052.33531.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
	<201103221352.58585.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>
	<201103221455.00085.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Message-ID: <201103230931.46278.heiko.tietze@apliki.de>

Am Dienstag, 22. M?rz 2011, 14:54:56 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> However, I also had another idea how to make it work when installed to the
> /usr/local prefix, so you could give that another try after an svn up, too,
> if you like.

Since it runs well now I think the old settings would work too for me. Perhaps 
someone else has same issue and will try it.



From andrew-esposito at sbcglobal.net  Sun Mar 27 02:58:56 2011
From: andrew-esposito at sbcglobal.net (Andy Esposito)
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:58:56 -0400
Subject: [rkward-devel] R engine died
Message-ID: <4D8EA7F0.1040309@sbcglobal.net>

Installed the RKWard, KED and R binary package and the 
rkward.rkbackend.exe stoped working.  I am using windows 7 ultimate as 
an os. Cns you help.
Thanks,
Andy Esposito



From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Sun Mar 27 10:14:10 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 27 Mar 2011 12:14:10 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] R engine died
In-Reply-To: <4D8EA7F0.1040309@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4D8EA7F0.1040309@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <201103271214.15357.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi!

On Sunday 27 March 2011, Andy Esposito wrote:
> Installed the RKWard, KED and R binary package and the
> rkward.rkbackend.exe stoped working.  I am using windows 7 ultimate as
> an os. Cns you help.

Thanks for your report. However, in order to understand what's happening and 
how to fix it, we need much more information than this.
1) If I read you correct, you installed RKWard, KDE and R using separate 
installers, rather than the installation bundle. Which versions of KDE and R 
did you install?
2) Could you please post the exact error message that you see?
3) Does this happen immediately after starting RKWard, or some time later?
4) Did RKWard work on your system before, or is this the first time you tried?

Regards
Thomas
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From meik.michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de  Mon Mar 28 20:04:22 2011
From: meik.michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de (meik michalke)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:04:22 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] [ rkward-Feature Requests-3058072 ] add
	interaction with version control systems? (svn, bzr, ...)
In-Reply-To: <E1Q48uy-0004R6-3f@sfs-web-9.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com>
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hi,

am Montag 28 M?rz 2011 (11:39) schrieb SourceForge.net:
> i've noticed that in my RKWard installation, if i open the file browser
> window, the context menus  already feature the same svn entries as dolphin
> & konqueror (if kdesvn is also installed).

now that i'm testing this myself, there seems to be a bug: everytime i call 
the context menu, i get another instance of the kdesvn entries added. is that 
something RKWard does, or is something else to blame?


viele gr??e :: m.eik

-- 
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Tue Mar 29 07:12:22 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 29 Mar 2011 09:12:22 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] [ rkward-Feature Requests-3058072 ] add
	interaction with version control systems? (svn, bzr, ...)
In-Reply-To: <201103282204.27104.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
References: <E1Q48uy-0004R6-3f@sfs-web-9.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com>
	<201103282204.27104.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Message-ID: <201103290912.29533.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi!

On Monday 28 March 2011, meik michalke wrote:
> now that i'm testing this myself, there seems to be a bug: everytime i call
> the context menu, i get another instance of the kdesvn entries added. is
> that something RKWard does, or is something else to blame?

I was wondering about that, too, since the code really adds the actions over 
and other again. However, at least with KDE 4.4.5, this actually seems to be 
required.

Which version of KDE do you have?

Regards
Thomas
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From meik.michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de  Tue Mar 29 08:47:49 2011
From: meik.michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de (meik michalke)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:47:49 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] [ rkward-Feature Requests-3058072 ] add
	interaction with version control systems? (svn, bzr, ...)
In-Reply-To: <201103290912.29533.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <E1Q48uy-0004R6-3f@sfs-web-9.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com>
	<201103282204.27104.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
	<201103290912.29533.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	(sfid-20110329_103701_023110_5E76BE12)
Message-ID: <201103291047.53573.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>

hi,

am Dienstag 29 M?rz 2011 (09:12) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> On Monday 28 March 2011, meik michalke wrote:
> > now that i'm testing this myself, there seems to be a bug: everytime i
> > call the context menu, i get another instance of the kdesvn entries
> > added. is that something RKWard does, or is something else to blame?
> 
> I was wondering about that, too, since the code really adds the actions
> over and other again. However, at least with KDE 4.4.5, this actually
> seems to be required.

i can't reproduce this issue with konqueror or dolphin, but it immediately 
happens in RKWard.

> Which version of KDE do you have?

4.6.1


viele gr??e :: m.eik

-- 
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Tue Mar 29 10:26:46 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 29 Mar 2011 12:26:46 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] [ rkward-Feature Requests-3058072 ] add
	interaction with version control systems? (svn, bzr, ...)
In-Reply-To: <201103291047.53573.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
References: <E1Q48uy-0004R6-3f@sfs-web-9.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com>
	<201103290912.29533.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<201103291047.53573.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Message-ID: <201103291226.49732.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

Hi again,

On Tuesday 29 March 2011, meik michalke wrote:
> am Dienstag 29 M?rz 2011 (09:12) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> > On Monday 28 March 2011, meik michalke wrote:
> > > now that i'm testing this myself, there seems to be a bug: everytime i
> > > call the context menu, i get another instance of the kdesvn entries
> > > added. is that something RKWard does, or is something else to blame?
> > 
> > I was wondering about that, too, since the code really adds the actions
> > over and other again. However, at least with KDE 4.4.5, this actually
> > seems to be required.
> 
> i can't reproduce this issue with konqueror or dolphin, but it immediately
> happens in RKWard.
> 
> > Which version of KDE do you have?
> 
> 4.6.1

ok, so we know it changed somewhere between 4.4.5 and 4.6.1. Does anybody have 
an installation of KDE 4.5.x to try with? (You need the SVN version or the 
daily builds of RKWard).

Regards
Thomas
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From matthieu.stigler at gmail.com  Tue Mar 29 11:28:38 2011
From: matthieu.stigler at gmail.com (Matthieu Stigler)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:28:38 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] [ rkward-Feature Requests-3058072 ] add
 interaction with version control systems? (svn, bzr, ...)
In-Reply-To: <201103291226.49732.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <E1Q48uy-0004R6-3f@sfs-web-9.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com>	<201103290912.29533.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>	<201103291047.53573.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
	<201103291226.49732.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Message-ID: <4D91C266.2070609@gmail.com>

Le 29/03/2011 12:26, Thomas Friedrichsmeier a ?crit :
> Hi again,
>
> On Tuesday 29 March 2011, meik michalke wrote:
>> am Dienstag 29 M?rz 2011 (09:12) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
>>> On Monday 28 March 2011, meik michalke wrote:
>>>> now that i'm testing this myself, there seems to be a bug: everytime i
>>>> call the context menu, i get another instance of the kdesvn entries
>>>> added. is that something RKWard does, or is something else to blame?
>>> I was wondering about that, too, since the code really adds the actions
>>> over and other again. However, at least with KDE 4.4.5, this actually
>>> seems to be required.
>> i can't reproduce this issue with konqueror or dolphin, but it immediately
>> happens in RKWard.
>>
>>> Which version of KDE do you have?
>> 4.6.1
> ok, so we know it changed somewhere between 4.4.5 and 4.6.1. Does anybody have
> an installation of KDE 4.5.x to try with? (You need the SVN version or the
> daily builds of RKWard).
>
I do (4.5.1) with daily build... not sure howevwer I understood exactly 
what/how to reproduce, sorry!
> Regards
> Thomas
>
>
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From Meik.Michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de  Tue Mar 29 12:54:35 2011
From: Meik.Michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de (meik michalke)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:54:35 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] [ rkward-Feature Requests-3058072 ] add
 interaction with version control systems? (svn, bzr, ...)
In-Reply-To: <4D91C266.2070609@gmail.com>
References: <E1Q48uy-0004R6-3f@sfs-web-9.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com>
	<201103291226.49732.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<4D91C266.2070609@gmail.com>
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hi,

Am Dienstag, 29. M?rz 2011, 13:28:38 schrieb Matthieu Stigler:
> I do (4.5.1) with daily build... not sure howevwer I understood exactly 
> what/how to reproduce, sorry!

 - start up RKWard
 - open the file browser (top left, next to the worspace browser)
 - in the file browser window, get a context menu (right-click)
 - repeat the last step several times

symptom: the lower part of the context menu shows the svn options, and each 
right-click adds another instance of that lower portion. it eats up your 
monitor ;-)

i'm not shure if it "works" without having kdesvn installed, too.
[@thomas: are the context menus a part of KDE or kdesvn?]


viele gr??e :: m.eik

-- 
  dipl. psych. meik michalke
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  institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie
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From matthieu.stigler at gmail.com  Tue Mar 29 13:02:03 2011
From: matthieu.stigler at gmail.com (Matthieu Stigler)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:02:03 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] [ rkward-Feature Requests-3058072 ] add
 interaction with version control systems? (svn, bzr, ...)
In-Reply-To: <201103291454.39745.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
References: <E1Q48uy-0004R6-3f@sfs-web-9.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com>	<201103291226.49732.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>	<4D91C266.2070609@gmail.com>
	<201103291454.39745.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Message-ID: <4D91D84B.7060409@gmail.com>

Le 29/03/2011 14:54, meik michalke a ?crit :
> hi,
>
> Am Dienstag, 29. M?rz 2011, 13:28:38 schrieb Matthieu Stigler:
>> I do (4.5.1) with daily build... not sure howevwer I understood exactly
>> what/how to reproduce, sorry!
>   - start up RKWard
>   - open the file browser (top left, next to the worspace browser)
>   - in the file browser window, get a context menu (right-click)
>   - repeat the last step several times
>
> symptom: the lower part of the context menu shows the svn options, and each
> right-click adds another instance of that lower portion. it eats up your
> monitor ;-)
>
thanks meik.

So I don't see the svn thing (kdesvn not installed) , but see the same 
phenomenon with "Open with": got it 6 times now...
> i'm not shure if it "works" without having kdesvn installed, too.
> [@thomas: are the context menus a part of KDE or kdesvn?]
>
>
> viele gr??e :: m.eik
>
>
>
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Tue Mar 29 17:11:20 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 29 Mar 2011 19:11:20 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] [ rkward-Feature Requests-3058072 ] add
	interaction with version control systems? (svn, bzr, ...)
In-Reply-To: <4D91D84B.7060409@gmail.com>
References: <E1Q48uy-0004R6-3f@sfs-web-9.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com>
	<201103291454.39745.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
	<4D91D84B.7060409@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201103291911.24209.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>

On Tuesday 29 March 2011, Matthieu Stigler wrote:
> Le 29/03/2011 14:54, meik michalke a ?crit :
> > hi,
> So I don't see the svn thing (kdesvn not installed) , but see the same
> phenomenon with "Open with": got it 6 times now...

Ok, I guess it's safe to assume that both phenomena show up in parallel. 
Should be fixed in the next daily build, then.

> > i'm not shure if it "works" without having kdesvn installed, too.
> > [@thomas: are the context menus a part of KDE or kdesvn?]

Well, I don't have kdesvn installed, but I do see the SVN actions (Note: The 
update and commit actions are only shown for directories which are SVN working 
copies), so I guess they come from somewhere else.

These are KDE "service" actions, and as far as I understand, they can be 
provided by any third party inside or outside of kdelibs (see 
http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus). 
No idea where exactly the SVN actions are implemented.

Regards
Thomas
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From Meik.Michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de  Wed Mar 30 10:17:15 2011
From: Meik.Michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de (meik michalke)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:17:15 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] [ rkward-Feature Requests-3058072 ] add
 interaction with version control systems? (svn, bzr, ...)
In-Reply-To: <201103291911.24209.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
References: <E1Q48uy-0004R6-3f@sfs-web-9.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com>
	<4D91D84B.7060409@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <201103301217.19640.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>

Am Dienstag, 29. M?rz 2011, 19:11:20 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> Ok, I guess it's safe to assume that both phenomena show up in parallel.
> Should be fixed in the next daily build, then.

yes, that one is fixed :-) but it somehow behaves differently now, at least on 
my side, i.e. i get only the choice to export or checkout a svn repo, even if 
the active folder already is svn controlled. before the fix i was able to 
update and commit there, instead.

in konqueror, when i browse to the same folder, i'm still presented the update 
and commit options.

> > > [@thomas: are the context menus a part of KDE or kdesvn?]
> 
> Well, I don't have kdesvn installed, but I do see the SVN actions (Note:
> The update and commit actions are only shown for directories which are SVN
> working copies), so I guess they come from somewhere else.

interesting. i attributed this to kdesvn becaus it says so in my menu entries: 
each entry has " (kdesvn)" added to it. for a test, i removed the kdesvn 
package, which made the svn entries disappear as well. only after reinstalling 
kdesvn they reappear as well.

> No idea where exactly the SVN actions are implemented.

and i wonder how i cannot see them when i remove kdesvn, if they should be 
there anyway. perhaps installing the package or using kdesvn at least once 
changes some config options how to treat .svn if it's found.


viele gr??e :: m.eik

-- 
  dipl. psych. meik michalke
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From matthieu.stigler at gmail.com  Wed Mar 30 11:33:28 2011
From: matthieu.stigler at gmail.com (Matthieu Stigler)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:33:28 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] [ rkward-Feature Requests-3058072 ] add
 interaction with version control systems? (svn, bzr, ...)
In-Reply-To: <201103301217.19640.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
References: <E1Q48uy-0004R6-3f@sfs-web-9.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com>	<4D91D84B.7060409@gmail.com>	<201103291911.24209.thomas.friedrichsmeier@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
	<201103301217.19640.meik.michalke@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Message-ID: <4D931508.9090703@gmail.com>

solved for the "open with"

Le 30/03/2011 12:17, meik michalke a ?crit :
> Am Dienstag, 29. M?rz 2011, 19:11:20 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
>> Ok, I guess it's safe to assume that both phenomena show up in parallel.
>> Should be fixed in the next daily build, then.
> yes, that one is fixed :-) but it somehow behaves differently now, at least on
> my side, i.e. i get only the choice to export or checkout a svn repo, even if
> the active folder already is svn controlled. before the fix i was able to
> update and commit there, instead.
>
> in konqueror, when i browse to the same folder, i'm still presented the update
> and commit options.
>
>>>> [@thomas: are the context menus a part of KDE or kdesvn?]
>> Well, I don't have kdesvn installed, but I do see the SVN actions (Note:
>> The update and commit actions are only shown for directories which are SVN
>> working copies), so I guess they come from somewhere else.
> interesting. i attributed this to kdesvn becaus it says so in my menu entries:
> each entry has " (kdesvn)" added to it. for a test, i removed the kdesvn
> package, which made the svn entries disappear as well. only after reinstalling
> kdesvn they reappear as well.
>
>> No idea where exactly the SVN actions are implemented.
> and i wonder how i cannot see them when i remove kdesvn, if they should be
> there anyway. perhaps installing the package or using kdesvn at least once
> changes some config options how to treat .svn if it's found.
>
>
> viele gr??e :: m.eik
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Enable your software for Intel(R) Active Management Technology to meet the
> growing manageability and security demands of your customers. Businesses
> are taking advantage of Intel(R) vPro (TM) technology - will your software
> be a part of the solution? Download the Intel(R) Manageability Checker
> today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmar
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Wed Mar 30 15:44:10 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 30 Mar 2011 17:44:10 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] [ rkward-Feature Requests-3058072 ] add
	interaction with version control systems? (svn, bzr, ...)
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Hi,

On Wednesday 30 March 2011, meik michalke wrote:
> yes, that one is fixed :-) but it somehow behaves differently now, at least
> on my side, i.e. i get only the choice to export or checkout a svn repo,
> even if the active folder already is svn controlled. before the fix i was
> able to update and commit there, instead.

that's strange. Do you still see the "Open with" actions? Could you play with 
this some more? The very first display of the menu should not be affected by the 
changes I did, yesterday. Only subsequent context menus (see 
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=27277694 ; it's a very 
simple patch, really).

- Do you see the update / commit actions for svn controlled folders, if it is 
the *first* time that you open the menu?
- If you invoke a context menu again, on the same folder, are the actions 
gone?
- If you invoke the context menu again, on a folder, which is not svn 
controlled, are the actions gone?

Could this change be due to your experiments with uninstalling kdesvn, below?

Regards
Thomas
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From Meik.Michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de  Wed Mar 30 16:22:37 2011
From: Meik.Michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de (meik michalke)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:22:37 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel]
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Am Mittwoch, 30. M?rz 2011, 17:44:10 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> On Wednesday 30 March 2011, meik michalke wrote:
> > i get only the choice to export or checkout a svn repo, even if the active
> > folder already is svn controlled. before the fix i was able to update and
> > commit there, instead.
> 
> that's strange. Do you still see the "Open with" actions?

i do, and i do see some svn actions, but they don't seem to be "aware" that 
there's already svn content in that folder.

> Could you play with this some more?

i have something even stranger now: at work i'm with KDE 4.5.5, and there now 
i don't get any svn entries at all. the "open with" actions are intact, 
though. and i still get "svn update" and "svn commit" entries in konqueror's 
context menus for the same folder.

> - Do you see the update / commit actions for svn controlled folders, if it
> is the *first* time that you open the menu?

no, the number of attempts has no effect at all.

> - If you invoke a context menu again, on the same folder, are the actions
> gone?

nothing changes. well, at home (KDE 4.6.1) at least i get "svn export" and 
"svn checkout" (but that's for every folder). at work svn is simply gone.

> - If you invoke the context menu again, on a folder, which is not svn
> controlled, are the actions gone?

that too doesn't change anything.

> Could this change be due to your experiments with uninstalling kdesvn,
> below?

i noticed the changes in the context menus prior to uninstalling kdesvn. at 
work i didn't touch that package at all, nonetheless it behaved differently.

can you check if you have the package "kdesvn-kio-plugins" installed? 
matthieu didn't have svn entries as well, so there has to be either some 
config tweak or differences in installed packages, i guess...


viele gr??e :: m.eik

-- 
  dipl. psych. meik michalke
  abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie
  institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie
  heinrich-heine-universit"at d"usseldorf
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Wed Mar 30 16:54:34 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 30 Mar 2011 18:54:34 +0200
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Hi,

well, this is totally strange. I have now tried a yet more elaborate 
workaround in SVN. Let's see if that helps. Not sure, whether it will make it 
into today's daily build, but should be in the daily build, tomorrow, at the 
latest. Please test, again.

On Wednesday 30 March 2011, meik michalke wrote:
> can you check if you have the package "kdesvn-kio-plugins" installed?
> matthieu didn't have svn entries as well, so there has to be either some
> config tweak or differences in installed packages, i guess...

It appears that these actions are provided by either "kdesvn" or "kdesdk-kio-
plugins". I have the latter on this installation (but not kdesvn-kio-plugins).

Regards
Thomas
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From meik.michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de  Thu Mar 31 18:06:21 2011
From: meik.michalke at uni-duesseldorf.de (meik michalke)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:06:21 +0200
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hi,

am Mittwoch 30 M?rz 2011 (18:54) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> well, this is totally strange. I have now tried a yet more elaborate
> workaround in SVN. Let's see if that helps.

yes, that did the trick! now it works perfectly, at home as well as at work. 
thanks -- since i also figured out how kdesvn demands public key auth for 
svn+ssh, this is really awesome.


viele gr??e :: m.eik

-- 
dipl. psych. meik michalke
institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie
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From thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de  Thu Mar 31 20:00:38 2011
From: thomas.friedrichsmeier at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Thomas Friedrichsmeier)
Date: 31 Mar 2011 22:00:38 +0200
Subject: [rkward-devel] [rkward-users] Proposition of changes on
	crosstabulation plugin
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Hi,

I'll reply to your points in a different order of writing. 

> PD2: I sent this message to the users list not to the developers list,
> because some one could test the plugin with this changes and make
> suggestions, and I have see that many people want to get contingency tables
> with more information, well there is a method :)

I'll take this to rkward-devel, instead. While of course this is correct, the 
main point of having separate lists for users and developers is to avoid 
flooding all users' inboxes with the details of the development (which often 
generates a lot of noise). We do regularly invite subscribers of rkward-users 
for testing, before new releases are made.

*This* mail still has rkward-users in CC, so nobody will be left wondering 
about the reply, but please send further follow-ups to rkward-devel.

> I think that we could make a repository of user contribuited plugins, or
> forks to the existing plugins.

We have the beginnings of that since RKWard 0.5.5. See Settings->Configure 
RKWard->Plugins->Install or uninstall add-on plugin packs. 
http://rkward.sourceforge.net/documents/devel/plugins/external_plugins.html 
for documentation on how to create such "plugin packs". Currently, this 
repository is hosted on Meik's server, so you will need to get in touch with 
Meik for details on uploading.

On Thursday 31 March 2011, Andr?s Necochea wrote:
> Some weeks ago I sent a message to the developement list with a proposition
> of changes on the crosstabulation plugin of rkward. In a conversation winth
> Thomas, I propose a function that use ftable to add statistic to an R
> contingency table. Thomas make some fixes to this function.
> 
> I attached the file containing the plugin. At now, doesn't have many
> features, only uses the bind.tables function to include the statistics in
> the main table. It will include % of row, % of column, % of total, an chisq
> expected.

I only had a cursory look so far. I have some changes in mind. Will try to 
give you detailed feedback within a few days. As a first detail, here's another 
slight simplification I made to the bind.tables() function, shortly after our 
discussion about it. I believe it does all that we want, but test for 
yourself:

  bind.tables <- function (...) {
     tables <- list (...)
     output <- unlist (tables)
     dim (output) <- c (dim (tables[[1]]), length (tables))
     dimnames (output) <- c (dimnames (tables[[1]]), list (statistic=names 
(tables)))
     ftable (output, col.vars=2)
  }

> I'm working in the bind.tables function to work on a matrix with more than
> two dimensions.

Perhaps the above version of bind.tables() can be extended to more dimensions 
more easily, too.

> I tryng to make some changes on the dialog of the plugin to include a tab
> with the table options.

Alternatively, consider adding those options to the first tab (which already 
has the chisquare option). But of course this is just a detail, and can be 
changed, easily, at any time.

> Beside, I'm planing to change the rk.results function to include a method
> to print a ftable class object.

Out of curiosity: What will be the main difference(s) with respect to
  rk.print(some_ftable_object)
?

> If some one have a suggestion, or a correction to this plug in, please tell
> me.

Again, I'll try to give you more detailed feedback within a few days.

Regards
Thomas
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From yayopoint at gmail.com  Thu Mar 31 20:34:31 2011
From: yayopoint at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Necochea?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:34:31 -0400
Subject: [rkward-devel] [rkward-users] Proposition of changes on
 crosstabulation plugin
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I don't know how, but you do it, this function reduces many of code lines of
my function. Thanks.

Sorry, I'm no good making scripts. I repeat, I'm sociologyst.

About some things that you comented:
>Out of curiosity: What will be the main difference(s) with respect to
>rk.print(some_ftable_object)
>?

rk.print requires R2HTML, this mean include a library for use only one
function, thats very common on social science research. Besides, the table
printed has no borders, and it looks ugly, maybe could be solved with a css
style, I don't know.

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