Suggestion to drop ktp from KDE Gear

[Albert Astals Cid]

El dilluns, 26 de juny de 2023, a les 22:55:44 (CEST), Albert Astals Cid va escriure:
> El divendres, 23 de juny de 2023, a les 0:52:46 (CEST), Heiko Becker va
> 
> escriure:
> > On Wednesday, 21 June 2023 21:48:16 CEST, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > El dimecres, 21 de juny de 2023, a les 18:35:28 (CEST), Jonathan Riddell
> > > va
> > > 
> > > escriure:
> > >> I'd like to suggest dropping ktp packages from the next KDE Gear
> > >> release.
> > >> Telepathy upstream is unmaintained, KTP is unmaintained and discussions
> > >> with one of the original authors says it should be dropped.
> > >> 
> > >> Modules we release are:
> > >> ktp-accounts-kcm ...
> > > 
> > > Is it working? Unless it isn't i don't see why we need to drop it.
> > 
> > Not very pleasantly...
> > 
> > I tried:
> > 
> > - ICQ: doesn't work because pidgin remove support for it in 2021 because
> > the protocol changed in 2017
> > - AIM: I never had an account there, but the situation is exactly the same
> > as for ICQ
> > - Skype: Doesn't work, but probably due to me missing
> > https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin
> > - Telegram: Way too shady for me to give them my phone number and I'm
> > missing telepathy-morse anyway, so no idea if it works
> > - Office/Bonjour: These are a tad weird, they don't error out, but the UI
> > is so basic that I'm not sure how to do something with it
> > - Google Hangouts: Asks to sign in with google, but that errors out after
> > entering an email, maybe because it was shut down on November 1, 2022
> > - Yahoo: piding has removed it in 2016, because they totally changed the
> > protocol after August 5th, 2016
> > - XMPP seems to somewhat work and I could enter a chat room
> > - GG (former Gadu-Gadu): Can't register "The ability to create a new
> > account has been blocked."
> 
> Thanks for the detailed analysis.
> 
> It seems XMPP is the only thing that seems to work.
> 
> Given that kopete seems to also support XMPP I woud not be against removing
> ktp for 23.08 given the big support for removing it.
> 
> Hoping that existing users of KTP can keep it installed without their
> distributions forcing them to remove it.
> 
> If someone objects to the removal please make it clear before July 16th.

This has now been done.

https://invent.kde.org/sysadmin/release-tools/-/commit/9e8b75d787a33405a68379364d9637e7e7001328

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> Cheers,
>   Albert
> 
> > So, at the very least we should remove some accounts, where the respective
> > service doesn't exist/work anymore and remove ktp-call-ui, which depends
> > on
> > qt-gstreamer which is realldy dead and archived upstream and a pain to
> > keep
> > building (no idea how to test it...).
> > 
> > But given the above, the fact that nobody seemed to care enough to notice
> > that, the mentioned maintenance state of the telepathy stack and the
> > apparently very low number of people willing to invest time on its
> > maitenance on our side, I'm in favour of just dropping it.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Heiko