KHolidays in Applications and Frameworks

[David Faure]

On dimanche 28 janvier 2018 12:03:01 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El diumenge, 28 de gener de 2018, a les 11:24:05 CET, David Faure va 
escriure:
> > On dimanche 28 janvier 2018 00:32:09 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > El divendres, 26 de gener de 2018, a les 11:46:48 CET, Sandro Knauß va
> > > 
> > > escriure:
> > > > Hey,
> > > > 
> > > > the question came up, what to do with 17.12.2 and 17.12.3 releases
> > > > according KHoldidays. As you may know KHolidays has moved from KDEPim
> > > > (Applications) to Frameworks and will be released within the next
> > > > Frameworks release (5.43) too. So for 17.12.2 and 17.12.3 users can
> > > > get
> > > > kHolidays from both bundles. So what to do?
> > > 
> > > We release them, we can't drop something in the middle of a stable
> > > release.
> > > 
> > > > I think it is not an big issue shipping the KHolidays in both bundels.
> > > > As
> > > > frameworks is released from master and Applications has it own branch,
> > > > we
> > > > only need to make sure, that all bugfixes that are released for
> > > > Applications are merged into master, but this is the default workflow
> > > > anyways. If users already switched to Frameworks  version, should
> > > > following
> > > > using Frameworks version and not switch back. For users not updated to
> > > > Frameworks version can just follow using the version from
> > > > Applications.
> > > > 
> > > > So I would argue, that we should not do any special treating for
> > > > KHolidays
> > > > and just ship two months a nearly the same tarball in both bundles.
> > > > 
> > > > It makes sense to add some lines to the next release announcement of
> > > > 17.12.2 and next Frameworks release:
> > > > 
> > > > KHolidays is moved from KDEPim (Applications) to Frameworks. We tried
> > > > to
> > > > not break your workflow. You have two options. Either you switch to
> > > > Frameworks version and stick to it and do not build and use KHolidays
> > > > from KDE Applications anymore. Or you continue using  KHolidays from
> > > > KDE
> > > > Applications 17.12.X releases. The versions in Frameworks and
> > > > Applications
> > > > do only differ in some cleanup and the version number. In theory a
> > > > smooth
> > > > less switch should be possible without rebuilding depending packages
> > > > as
> > > > ABI
> > > > is the same. We the KDEPim team (kde-pim at kde.org, #kontact) also wants
> > > > to
> > > > move more packages from Applications to Frameworks in future. We are
> > > > interested in your feedback, what can be improved to make it even more
> > > > smoothless switch for the next packages.
> > > 
> > > Do we really need that? Will users really understand that? Seems a bit
> > > too
> > > much of "technical jargon" to me, and i know what we're talking about :D
> > > 
> > > Since we think "it'll just work", why bother the user?
> > 
> > I suppose that's rather a message for the packagers than for the end
> > users.
> 
> Right, but since packagers are on the release-team list and they are
> hopefully reading this as they should I don't think we should put that huge
> wall of text on our kde.org announcement.

Agreed.

-- 
David Faure, faure at kde.org, http://www.davidfaure.fr
Working on KDE Frameworks 5