KHolidays in Applications and Frameworks

David Faure faure at
Sun Jan 28 10:24:05 UTC 2018

On dimanche 28 janvier 2018 00:32:09 CET Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El divendres, 26 de gener de 2018, a les 11:46:48 CET, Sandro Knauß va
> escriure:
> > Hey,
> > 
> > the question came up, what to do with 17.12.2 and 17.12.3 releases
> > according KHoldidays. As you may know KHolidays has moved from KDEPim
> > (Applications) to Frameworks and will be released within the next
> > Frameworks release (5.43) too. So for 17.12.2 and 17.12.3 users can get
> > kHolidays from both bundles. So what to do?
> We release them, we can't drop something in the middle of a stable release.
> > I think it is not an big issue shipping the KHolidays in both bundels. As
> > frameworks is released from master and Applications has it own branch, we
> > only need to make sure, that all bugfixes that are released for
> > Applications are merged into master, but this is the default workflow
> > anyways. If users already switched to Frameworks  version, should
> > following
> > using Frameworks version and not switch back. For users not updated to
> > Frameworks version can just follow using the version from Applications.
> > 
> > So I would argue, that we should not do any special treating for KHolidays
> > and just ship two months a nearly the same tarball in both bundles.
> > 
> > It makes sense to add some lines to the next release announcement of
> > 17.12.2 and next Frameworks release:
> > 
> > KHolidays is moved from KDEPim (Applications) to Frameworks. We tried to
> > not break your workflow. You have two options. Either you switch to
> > Frameworks version and stick to it and do not build and use KHolidays
> > from KDE Applications anymore. Or you continue using  KHolidays from KDE
> > Applications 17.12.X releases. The versions in Frameworks and Applications
> > do only differ in some cleanup and the version number. In theory a smooth
> > less switch should be possible without rebuilding depending packages as
> > ABI
> > is the same. We the KDEPim team (kde-pim at, #kontact) also wants to
> > move more packages from Applications to Frameworks in future. We are
> > interested in your feedback, what can be improved to make it even more
> > smoothless switch for the next packages.
> Do we really need that? Will users really understand that? Seems a bit too
> much of "technical jargon" to me, and i know what we're talking about :D
> Since we think "it'll just work", why bother the user?

I suppose that's rather a message for the packagers than for the end users.

David Faure, faure at,
Working on KDE Frameworks 5

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