Future frameworks releases

Sebastian Kügler sebas at kde.org
Wed Jun 17 05:21:33 UTC 2015

On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:45:06 Christian Mollekopf wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, at 08:56 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:08:06 Christian Mollekopf wrote:
> > > I'm sorry for the friction this causes right now, but in the long run I
> > > really  don't see how this makes life harder for everyone else.
> >
> > Here's an example from some recent packaging experiments. I wrote a
> > script to 
> > update the packages, with frameworks, it was a very easy thing, I change
> > one 
> > global version number, and I could check out a tag (same tag for every 
> > framework) from git, then roll a tarball from those tags and build it. 
> > Verifying that everything's OK was again a matter of checking the results 
> > against one single version.
> >
> > This process would have been a LOT more work with different version
> > numbers, let alone some packages being excluded in certain releases,
> > because all of a sudden, I'd have to keep track of all this manually.
> Getting the latest tag on master is entirely possible without knowing
> the version number
> (git describe --abbrev=0 --tags). Verifying that everything is ok indeed
> would be
> a bit more involved. So yes, it can get a bit more complex, but not a
> whole lot really.

It's possible, but it's cumbersome, involves more server roundtrips and 
parsing, and is a lot harder to verify manually.

In the current model, it's as simple as 
version = "5.11" for the setup (in my example script)


ls -l|grep -v 5.11

to verify that everything went well.

That's a simple and almost fail-safe solution.

> > Let's not forget that we're talking about a few hundred deployers here,
> > and 
> > perhaps a lot more we don't know about, and then hopefully a whole lot
> > more in 
> > the future. The consistency across frameworks at this basic project
> > management 
> > level just cannot be underestimated, and that's why I think that the
> > proposal 
> > of different versions, and different modules per release of frameworks is
> > a /really bad idea/.

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