[Kde-pim] What's up with kdepim*?

Mon Jul 20 07:46:05 UTC 2015

Le Monday 20 July 2015, 09:23:40 Albert Astals Cid a écrit :
> El Dilluns, 20 de juliol de 2015, a les 06:45:17, laurent Montel va 
escriure:
> > Le Sunday 19 July 2015, 23:37:05 Albert Astals Cid a écrit :
> > > El Diumenge, 19 de juliol de 2015, a les 23:23:37, laurent Montel va
> > 
> > escriure:
> > > > Le Sunday 19 July 2015, 20:22:11 Albert Astals Cid a écrit :
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > > 8 months ago we started releasing kdepim from the KDE/4.14 branch
> > > > > because
> > > > > you guys wanted, some kind of LTS-ish without really being LTS.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now at some point in the last cycle there were some emails to some
> > > > > lists
> > > > > and some blogs in the planet about kdepim & friends getting ready
> > > > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > KF5 release.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There was no email to the release-team list asking to stop releasing
> > > > > KDE/4.14 and releasing master, but "oh well" I thought, let's
> > > > > pretend
> > > > > they
> > > > > did.
> > > > 
> > > > It's stopped by default when we release official kf5 no ? As for
> > > > others
> > > > program no ?
> > > 
> > > Being part of the KDE Applications release has nothing to do with being
> > > or
> > > not being based on KF5.
> > > 
> > > You guys just decided to stop on KDE/4.14 for some reason I never
> > > understood.
> > 
> > ?
> > Why we will continue to work on KDE/4.14 when we focus on kf5 ?
> 
> Again there is noone working on the KDE/4.14 branches except kdepim*.
> 
> You don't seem to understand what KDE Applications is about.
> 
> KDE Applications is about giving our users the best experience they can get,
> it can be based on kdelibs4 or KF5, that doesn't matter.
> 
> So the fact that Applications/14.12 or Applications/15.04 or
> Applications/15.08 exists for a repository doesn't mean anything other than
> there's 3 stable branches and a master branch.
> 
> I've explained it to you guys in the past and you didn't seem to understand
> it, since I'm explaining it the same way, I'm not sure I'll help making you
> understand it.
> 
> But anyway this is not the critical issue here.
> 
> > (As you know the number of dev kdepim are 1 or 2 or max 4 and I don't have
> > time to maintain kde4.14 and port all kdepim kf5...)
> 
> This is interesting because you say you don't have time but still there's
> lots of commits to KDE/4.14 branches of kdepim* by you :)

Yep until we decided to focus on kde kf5 and we decided in april that we 
release kf5 in 15.08
=> I stopped to work on.

Indeed I wanted to make sure that 4.14 was still stable/fixed until I switch 
to kf5.
Now it's finish so no new fix in 4.14 from me (and as you know I was the one 
developper which worked on 4.14 kdepim)

> 
> > > > > But then I had a look at the kdepim build.kde.org job seems to
> > > > > depend
> > > > > on
> > > > > a
> > > > > bazillion of unreleased things, like akonadi, akonadi-calendar,
> > > > > prison
> > > > > (frameworks branch!), kmailtransport, akonadi-search, kholidays,
> > > > > syndication, kimap and I guess more but I stopped looking.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So I guess you guys still want to release the KDE/4.14 branches for
> > > > > kdepim*, right?
> > > > 
> > > > No we want to release kf5 release.
> > > 
> > > Being the guy that creates the packages, that is pretty surprising since
> > > this is the first news i have in the release-team list.
> > > 
> > > How was I supposed to know you want to be part of the release?
> > 
> > Ok we (perhaps me) forgot to send a message to release-team, but I didn't
> > hide it ? I wrote a lot of blog about it, we decided it on april in sprint
> > kdepim in toulouse  and we wrote an email in mailing list.
> > Ok we forgot to send email to you.
> 
> It's a small but important detail, tell the release people you want to be
> part of the release.

Ok I understand and I made an error.
I didn't think that it was necessary to do it.
(as I didn't do it for kdegames apps that I ported it was not a problem I 
never inform release team about it and it was not a problem so I didn"t think 
that it was a problem).

> 
> > > I don't even have a clue of what repositories are supposed to be part of
> > > the release.
> > 
> > Kdepim/akonadi/akonadi-search/kdepim-runtime/kdepimlibs
> > Gpgmepp/kblog/kcontacts/kidentitymanagement/kmailtransport/kontactinterfac
> > e
> > syndication/akonadi-calendar/kalarmcal/kcalutils/kldap/kmime/ktnef/kcalcor
> > e/ kholidays/kimap/kmbox/kpimtextedit/kxmlrpcclient
> 
> akonadi is part of kdesupport, we don't release kdesupport repositories as
> part of KDE Applications.

I asked to Dan to create a new release for it.

> 
> akonadi-search is part of playground, we don't release playground
> repositories as part of KDE Applications.

Why it was moved in playground....
So what is the solution for it ?

> 
> Cheers,
>   Albert
> 
> > > Also you have unreleased dependencies, at least prison and akonadi.
> > 
> > Akonadi is as the others kdepim package it's the last one.
> > Ok Dan could you told us which is the last package please ?
> > 
> > Prison... I never used it it's optional so it's not a problem.
> > 
> > > The
> > > dependency freeze was last week.
> > > 
> > > Salut,
> > > 
> > >   Albert
> > >   
> > > > Regards.
> > > > 
> > > > > Salut,
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Albert
> > > > > 
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