Better testing of tagged tars

[Albert Astals Cid]

El Dimarts, 12 de febrer de 2013, a les 14:37:22, Anke Boersma va escriure:
> To get a clear picture then, our early tar builds should be completely
> hidden (not possible on our server), even-though no regular user has access
> to them,  

Can you please clarify if your tarballs are public or not? A few mails ago you 
you said the instructions to get the packages where on a publicly accessible 
wiki, and now you are saying say users don't have acces to them?

> and any bugs found in the early tars (not build related) should
> be kept quiet, until the tars are officially announced.  It is better to
> have final tars that have bugs that were known for a few days, than
> reporting.

Release blocking bugs should be reported immediately to this list or CC'ed to 
this list (I still remember in the 4.10 cycle someone reported what he thought 
was a blocker bug and assigned it to a regular developer in bugzilla and told 
noone else, yes, that's not helpful at all)

Regular bugs I don't really care, Martin seems to want after the release, but 
he is "only" one developer.

Cheers,
  Albert

> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin at kde.org> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 12 February 2013 19:25:46 Myriam Schweingruber wrote:
> > > Hi Anke,
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Anke Boersma
> > > 
> > > <abveritas at chakra-project.org> wrote:
> > > > But this is the exact point I'm trying to make.  Educate early testers
> > 
> > to
> > 
> > > > report any issues they find within the distro.  We have done that for
> > > > 3
> > > > years, and is well known and accepted by our testers (this includes
> > > > testing
> > > > all beta and rc builds for Chakra).
> > > 
> > > I think the point is: we don't have enough testers for the Beta and RC
> > > release, if these people would join the Quality Team during testing
> > > this would be far more valuable than only for the final tarball. So
> > > far we are only a handful, and maybe you have testers that do test but
> > > they don't report upstream, nor do they coordinate with us. The KDE
> > > Quality team would welcome a few more hands for that, for the final
> > > tarball it's just a bit late IMHO.
> > 
> > +1000 - that's exactly the point. We don't need the testers when the final
> > tarballs are already done, we need them months before. And if you have
> > many
> > testers for your beta packages you also get most of the distro issues
> > early.
> > 
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> > Martin Gräßlin
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