beta5 or rc1

[Torsten Rahn]

Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> I would also see a release rather sooner than later. 

That's certainly what we all would like to see. Still we need to check whether 
it's possible to do that without releasing seriously broken stuff. Because 
that would even be worse PR. Look up

rushed "Gnome 1.0"

on the internet. Back then they rushed the release out of the door just for an 
announcement during LinuxWorld (and Redhat 6.0 inclusion). And this did hurt 
them a lot more than the "advantage" of  being "right in time". Yes, many 
people remember them releasing during LinuxWorld however the same and even 
more people remember that this release was really really bad.

Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> okular still can't print (although it seems that might be done *soon*) so i
> agree

Well at the current point of time there is no way to get heard if you won't 
get more specific and commit yourself on an exact point of time. 
Tell a reasonably estimated date when printing will be done (unless you get 
hit by a car) and chances are much higher that okular's showstoppers can get 
considered while planning the release. So are you able to tell whether 
printing will be ready by Wednesday 21st (just like plasma will have stuff 
ironed out by then) ?

Aaron Seigo wrote:
> this is hardly a showstopper. not painting menus or tab pages would be; so
> let's try not to distract the limited resources we have working on these

I fully agree. 

If people who are responsible for the last few real showstoppers can up to 
their best knowledge be sure that the last few showstoppers will be ironed 
out by next wednesday then we should move the RC1 to Wednesday 21st. 

Given that a higher RC release frequency is pretty normal for software 
development I'd suggest that we still stick with the RC2 milestone Dec. 5th. 
As all real showstoppers should be ironed out with RC1 I don't expect that we 
need a full three weeks for the next RC 2 release after (unless there are any 
organizational issues left).

Torsten
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