Intro - Station X and Plasma Mobile

Wed Oct 4 15:25:09 UTC 2017

This is hugely helpful guys. And a wonderful first start for us. Obviously
we need to start with porting Halium and going from there.

Mediatek isn't our only choice in terms of hardware as we have some other
options (including Qualcomm). We will invesitgate and come back to you. We
would love any assistance or recommendations on the hardware as we design
this - and would really appreciate any help you could provide.

Thanks again for the prompt responses!

-Eddie

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:21 PM, JBBgameich <jbb.mail at gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi Station X guys,
>
> The hardware you are going to use will not directly be able to run Plasma
> Mobile as it's drivers are designed to work with Android. You will need to
> port Halium, which is the hardware adaption of Plasma Mobile, to the
> device, using an Android kernel and a device tree. For that, you need to
> have access to at least the kernel sources and the device tree which (I
> heard) could be a little bit difficult with Mediatek.
>
> I think it would be very important for the community and potential
> customers (also the community of Plasma Mobile in the end), that the device
> has a quite new kernel (most phones have old kernels but maybe something
> that's not EOL like 3.18 which many manufacturers currently use) and that
> the device tree and kernel are available to the community as open-source.
>
> The old bq devices with Ubuntu Touch (also Mediatek powered) are mostly
> closed-source, first, there wasn't even the kernel source released due to
> some contract with Mediatek.
> This closed-source model worked fine as long as canonical had access to
> the source and could work on the Hardware support, but it's now making
> problems for the UBports community when they need to fix some bugs in code
> they don't have.
> As your previous messages sounded like you want to work together with the
> community, you should take care of using hardware for which the developers
> can get the source code.
>
> Some people say it is very difficult to run Linux on Mediatek hardware and
> prefer Qualcomm. Qualcomm seems to release the kernel source on codeaurora
> at least.
> I'd say the screensize is not that important for development, but that the
> board used is well supported by open-source android (Halium needs sort of
> LineageOS support, which you'd need to create from the sources you get from
> Mediatek or Qullcomm) and that the kernel and a few other parts are open
> source.
>
> I hope I could help a little bit with the hardware choice (the little
> knowledge I have about this is from reading the messages in the Halium
> Telegram group and the docs).
>
> I wish you good luck with your project!
>
>
> On 04.10.2017 15:52, Eddie Vassallo wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> It's great to meet you all - and really appreciate you getting back to us
> so quickly!
>
> We're actually in the stage now where we are considering a number of ODM
> hardware manufacturers for the handset - so would really love to sync with
> you - first and foremost - on the prefrred hardware requirements for Plasma
> Mobile - and any steer on the type of hardware (from screen size to
> processor/ram) you would recommend.
>
> Obviously I know the project is still being developed and shaped, but we
> would love to get a few prototype devices (best matching your criteria) in
> house and perhaps collaborate on firming up an initial working prototype
> that can be passed to production stage. We could then evolve from there and
> hopefully get to the point where we could offer a 'Developer Edition' for
> the community (as a first release) as I know everyone is dying to get their
> hands on Plasma Mobile, even to help test and iron things out at this stage.
>
> So you know, the hardware we are mainly looking at is between 5.5 - 6.0
> inch screen sizes, 720p and 1080p version with Mediatek processors and from
> 3-4GB RAM. These hardware options have been designed for Android
> (obviously) but are unlocked, rooted, and ready to go in terms of
> retrofitting Plasma Mobile. I know I have grossly simplified things there
> ;-) but both Darren and myself are excited to get some hardware prototypes
> in house, and start testing and seeing how we could make this work.
>
> Do let me know your thoughts on minimum system requirements - and any
> other info that could help steer us - and we'll keep shooting questions
> over to the mailing group. Perhaps we could set up a Slack Channel at some
> point to discuss further?
>
> Thanks again - and looking forward to working with you guys!
>
> Best,
>
> -Eddie
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Bhushan Shah <bhush94 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Eddie (and Darren)
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:34:20AM +0100, Eddie Vassallo wrote:
>> > http://stationx.rocks
>>
>> Good to know about you.. :)
>>
>> > Obviosuly I know you guys are working with others like Purism on the
>> > release of their upcoming Librem 5 which looks excellent - but I know
>> that
>> > won't be available until 2019. We are hoping to go much sooner, and
>> > obviously can start releasing from potentially Q1 2018 on a 'Developer
>> > Edition' of a mobile using Plasma Mobile.
>>
>> Do you have any more details about the hardware you are going to use?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Bhushan Shah
>> http://blog.bshah.in
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