D26655: show a thin separator between view and scrollbar

[Nathaniel Graham]

ngraham added a comment.


  In D26655#594250 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D26655#594250>, @hpereiradacosta wrote:
  
  > With all due respect: 
  >  This is irrelevant unless you do an actual poll. 
  >  You will have user feedback that want the thin scrollbar back. (I will).
  
  
  Sure, you can't please everyone. However we have gotten bug reports: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396747. In addition, I spend a lot of time interacting with the community through social media and my blog. And I watch a lot of YouTube video of people reviewing Plasma. In those venues, I see people expressing this complaint a lot.
  
  I know it's not a scientific poll, but it's my impression. I can't do any better that that, I'm afraid.
  
  > my complain here is that this argument was either not made or discarded, when the first switch to thin scrollbar was done.
  >  This is my main concern about this change: the going back and forth using adhoc arguments each time to justify the change, often contradicting each other.  It means essentially that we either don't know what we are doing, or dont think our changes enough. This is bad imo
  
  If I had been around back then or noticed the patch, I would have made this argument.
  
  I understand the complaint about going back and forth on things. However I see it another way: it means we have the humility to acknowledge when a change didn't have the effect we were hoping. It means we are flexible and mature enough to try an experiment, see if it worked, and go back to the old thing if we see that it didn't work, or that our users didn't really like it. Personally I see this as a good thing.
  
  Anyway, I respect your opinion, Hugo, and maybe we can find a compromise. Perhaps we could make the always-thick behavior on by default but optional?

REPOSITORY
  R31 Breeze

BRANCH
  phab/scrollbarseparator

REVISION DETAIL
  https://phabricator.kde.org/D26655

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