Selecting a Plasma logo

[kainz.a]

Hi

I tested the different logo examples as kicker icon in the panel and best
fit's the "old" plasma icon from uri.

2016-08-05 15:40 GMT+02:00 Andres Betts <andres.betts at gmail.com>:

> Hey Sebas,
>
> Thanks for understanding. As I mentioned before my intention is not
> necessarily that don't change my proposal but that we can create more
> proposals to show variety. We cannot settle just on 2 orignal proposals and
> then merge the two to see what comes out. I am pretty sure there many other
> ways of giving Plasma an identity and I would love to see more.
>
> My thoughts are that we keep on getting proposals, we don't really have a
> deadline and we can probably get many more people to come up with ideas.
> Art contests are generally about original artwork.
>
> It is not about "my way or the highway" but rather, "my way or any other
> highway." Because I am sure that there are more options than just two.
>
> Should we past this and not start an argument by requesting more logo
> proposals? We need to move forward.
>
>
>
> On August 5, 2016 at 7:07:17 AM, Sebastian Kügler (sebas at kde.org) wrote:
>
>> Hi Andres,
>>
>> Sorry it took a few days to reply.
>>
>> On dinsdag 2 augustus 2016 07:45:10 CEST Andres Betts wrote:
>>
>> Let me explain the reasons about changing the logo and what stage this is
>> at. In my personal view, after working for some time on coming up with a
>> new logo proposal, we received a few comments and changes to it that, to
>> me, had no backing. One idea was shared that others wanted my proposal to
>> look closer, or have characteristics from the KDE logo.
>>
>> However, I am not of the preference of changing my proposal and adding
>> more
>> elements to it, because I thought about this long and hard and reduced
>> the
>> proposal to the simplest of forms that conveyed a meaning. Adding
>> elements
>> from the KDE logo, or the last Plasma logo doesn’t seem logical given
>> that
>> the last logo really had no meaning behind it, so there is not much that
>> justifies its presence there. Some might argue that it is also about the
>> public not recognizing the logo and what it belongs to.
>>
>>
>> Well, that's not quite true. Especially the simplified arrow indicated
>> "shell",
>> something Plasma is all about. The three dots are elements for plugins,
>> scripting and (I think) containments. So the elements *do* have a
>> meaning.
>>
>> “Changes” or modifications that happen “after” the contest is over are
>> all
>> about simple edits. I consider my current logo to be in “beta” and only
>> bugs and simple edits could be made. For example, the thickness of a
>> border, or the sizes of the circles. I am not looking to strikingly
>> change
>> or modify the logo I created because I consider it to be near final.
>>
>>
>> That's of course fine. My point was that if we pick a logo, and then
>> change it
>> afterwards, it's not the logo we picked. (I agree, simple edits are fine,
>> but
>> the comments weren't about simple edits, as far as understand.)
>>
>> However, if others want to make proposals that the Plasma team might like
>> better, maybe it is a better thing to create original proposals and not
>> change my proposal to be what you think should be there. If the Plasma
>> team
>> feels that my logo is not what they would like to have, then let’s not
>> modify it and find an original alternative created by different artists.
>>
>>
>> I disagree there. Plasma is a collaborative project, we do things
>> together. My
>> way of the highway is generally not the way we work, and I think it's
>> quite
>> natural to suggest changes, that is how we usually work.
>>
>> I think people may have been confused by you making the logo available
>> under a
>> license that allows changes, so we thought that it's OK to polish it some
>> more. If it isn't, that's also fine, but it explains where this confusion
>> comes
>> from.
>>
>> Personally, I find it unfortunate that you do not want any changes to the
>> logo.
>> I can undestand it, but given its basic design is quite popular, I think
>> it's
>> a shame to ask people not to change it. I respect your choice, however,
>> so I
>> guess that's how it is.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> --
>> sebas
>>
>> Sebastian Kügler • http://vizZzion.org • http://www.kde.org
>>
>>
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