[Powerdevil] [Bug 355892] missing suspend/hibernate with upower 0.99.3 and Devuan

[Michael Palimaka via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355892

--- Comment #8 from Michael Palimaka <kensington at gentoo.org> ---
(In reply to Mathieu Roy from comment #7)
> "Which turns it into a distro problem. Your distribution configured the
> system in a way that suspend/hibernate is broken"
> 
> This statement is wrong. As said earlier, pm-suspend and pm-hibernate works
> fine, as they do since years. 

The statement is correct. It is libupower-glib that has changed. See the commit
for yourself:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/upower/commit/?id=030e2c9d3633e35e8beeecc1f41f6e0ff77b57dc

> 
> "It doesn't come with any of the supported solutions Plasma provides. Which
> makes it a distro problem"
> 
> It is a regression for KDE to drop support for perfectly working solution in
> favor of... broken ones. And when you say "any of the supported solutions",
> you mean only one, actually. Is there any alternative?

As already mentioned it is upower that has dropped support - KDE has dropped
nothing. Current working solutions are:

* Using systemd
* Using ConsoleKit2
* Using upower <=0.9.23

> "It failed here by ripping out systemd and replace it with well nothing."
> 
> Well, if the plan with KDE is now to alter every feature that users are used
> to, so they only support some systemd feature (is that what you refers as
> "any of the supported solutions"), with no user perceptible benefit, I think
> that should be advertised clearly. 

No feature has been altered and there is no systemd dependency. I've even seen
KDE developers take the time to resolve ConsoleKit bugs even though they are
not using it.

> If you are curious, you will see many bugs reports of Ubuntu users - with a
> common workaround being using an outdated upower version.  

This is becauase of upower changes, see above.

> 
> Anyway, so now you give a pointer to consolekit2 support. Didn't powerdevil
> supported pm-utils in the past?

powerdevil continues to support upower just fine. Feel free to contact me if I
can assist with packaging improvements - we ship powerdevil that works just
fine both with and without systemd.

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