Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

[Ivan Čukić]

Hi all,

Before I chime in: 'developer' is the term commonly used for
'programmers' - at least in the IT world. Other professions have other
meanings for the word like in civil engineering). And, even if we
start using the word to mean something else, nobody else will.

The account is for that reason named 'kde contributor account' and not
a 'kde developer account' [1]. The words 'developer' and 'contributor'
should be synonymous, but they are not used as such by the rest of the
world. So, it is not surprising that you got the answer that only Uri
is a devel.


As for the issue in question, I think that the best sentence that
explains the problem is David's:

> *something* will always be disliked - if you focus on the part someone
> dislikes. If you submit 10 changes and get 9 in, great! If you submit
> 10 and then go all or nothing, you'll get arguments.

The problem with big changes/patches (be it code or art) compared to
the smaller ones (especially if the work is not communicated enough):
- is that they require a lot of work
- there are more places that might warrant a discussion

Then you get a combined 'I spent a lot of time on this' with 'there
were so many complaints' and you get disheartened (with x^2 growth :)
). We all had it at some point in time, and learnt to do things more
transparently and in smaller steps (well, I haven't, but I'm a
masochist and like being slapped :) ).

There are people with different opinions. The project maintainer
always has the last word. And has the most difficult job of having to
say 'no' sometimes.


> treated by the Plasma devels as children.

After reading the bug report and the rev request, I'm surprised at
this statement. The fact that something gets rejected with a detailed
explanation (and even with offers to help) does not look to me like
talking down to someone.


> designers don't have devel accounts yet, please can we get that done?

Agreed. All VDG members should go to [1] and follow the procedure. I
guess that page needs updating to mention artist explicitly.


Cheers,
Ivan

[1] https://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Get_a_Contributor_Account

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