Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

Valorie Zimmerman valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com
Mon Nov 9 09:10:41 UTC 2015


Hello folks, this afternoon my time, a discussion started in #plasma
with some rather upset designers, who said that they felt they are
treated by the Plasma devels as children.

I waded into that discussion, and am reluctant to write to the list
about it, but I think there are some issues here that we all should
think about. So I guess it is worth the risk.

First, are all the designers on this list? If not, it's difficult to
have a dialog. Please make sure that at least andreas_k and uriherrera
(irc nicks) become part of this conversation. After all, they are
Plasma devels.

I've read https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/125568/ and
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355058, both of which seem
directly relevant.

I see both sides of the this conversation feeling distressed and
unheard, and perhaps disrespected. We've got to fix this.

When I asked both Andreas and Uri about other developers in the VDG,
they said "only Andrew is a dev"! As I said in the conversation, I'm a
developer, even though I don't code, nor do I design. We are all
developers if we're working in the project. (I don't consider myself a
Plasma devel, by the way.) We have to give ourselves the respect of
calling ourselves developers, and give one another that respect as
well.

All devels who contribute need developer accounts. If some of the
designers don't have devel accounts yet, please can we get that done?

Another sticky bit is the link I saw in the RR to github. As Martin
commented in the RR, we don't use github for development. If there are
folks doing that, can we help them move that to KDE infra?

The Plasma team is KDE's face to the world. You are doing world-class
work, and I love using your products. The VDG is an increasingly
important part of that "face to the world" and we need to ensure that
we are all working together, and not at cross-purposes.

Feel free to write privately to the CWG list if you think that what
you have to say shouldn't be public. Otherwise, please let's talk a
bit here and make some peace.

Best,

Valorie

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