Ship with Aurorae and Qtcurve or not...

[Thomas Pfeiffer]

On 15.05.2014 14:10, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Thursday 15 May 2014 14:08:29 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 15, 2014 13:58:04 Marco Martin wrote:
>>> On Thursday 15 May 2014 13:35:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
>>>> On 15.05.2014 12:16, David Edmundson wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jens Reuterberg <jens at ohyran.se>
>>
>> wrote:
>>>>> People always react whatever you do.
>>>>> Do not get influenced by Redditors/Slashdotters, they are all complete
>>>>> morons.
>>>>
>>>> In this case, the thing is: For once, the trolls are right! I personally
>>>> still like Oxygen a lot, but people (not only trolls, but the majority
>>>> of people) are strongly influenced by design trends and do not perceive
>>>> something as "new" if it adheres to design trends of the past. Therefore
>>>> if we show them a Plasma Next which looks like "KDE4", people's first
>>>> impression will be "It looks like KDE4! So all the fuss about nothing?".
>>>
>>> well, one problem is..
>>> the applications are indeed, still kde4
>>> right now ported there is systemsettings, konsole, kwrite and uhm that's
>>> about  it.
>>
>> QtCurve is also there for Qt4, no? In that case, can't we share the theme
>> and make both, Qt4 and Qt5 apps looks the same that way?
>
> yes, but we would change it also for their KDE 4 setup.

Can't we put advice like this out there for packagers:
"If you ship both Plasma Next and Plasma 4.X in your distribution, just 
leave everything as it is. If you create a spin with only Plasma Next, 
set everything to Breeze by default"
Then if people install both in parallel, they get a consistent Oxygen 
look, but if they try out Plasma Next in a special live CD (like Neon 
5), they can try out Breeze without messing with their KDE4 settings. 
And in our marketing screenshots we always use Breeze.
I don't think that many people will install Plasma Next in Parallel to 
Plasma 4.X anyway. The vast majority will probably only judge Plasma 
Next from screenshots, some more will try it out in a live session with 
a special ISO, the very adventurous will just replace Plasma 4.X with 
Next, and then some more will install both in parallel to try them out.

Btw, to illustrate the reactions, see this Google+ thread [1] for a 
comparison of the reactions to the screenshot with Oxygen to the one 
with Breeze. Yes, these are only a few people, but it represents what 
I've seen pretty much everywhere I looked so far.

[1] 
https://plus.google.com/+%D0%90%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9/posts/8CzHcXZwzNP