Jovie Rev 0.6 (KDE 4.11) from Linux Mint-16 KDE edition

[Jeremy Whiting]

Daniel,

You are correct that Jovie just speaks whatever is given to it. I
guess the question then is which convention to use (or to somehow
allow use of all three depending on user preference). Adding an option
for this seems to me a bit overkill for such a small feature, but
we'll see, maybe there's an elegant way to do it based on the user's
locale or something.

The fix will need to be made in the plasma clock applet (plasmoid)
itself. I can take a look sometime, but the fix would make it into
kde-workspace that is shipped with KDE SC 4.13.1 or so. Not sure how
quickly linux mint gets new packages from source tarballs ready. At
any rate thanks for the information.

Jeremy

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Daniel M. St.André
<dan.st.andre at gmail.com> wrote:
> Colleagues,
>      I wrote to the folks who manage the Jovie speech engine for KDE. After
> some thought, I decided that you needed to hear about this as well.  Please
> review the following symptom description.
>
>     Any solution to the symptoms I describe will likely require a localized
> and profile controlled approach.
>
>     Thinking more about this situation, there are other issues in play when
> speaking 24-hour time.  I am most familiar with "military" use of 24-hour
> time, but I am aware that there are several European uses with different
> conventions.
>
> The [US] military would say, "fifteen hundred hours" at 3:00 PM.
> In French, one would say, "treize heures" for the same time. (One might also
> say, "trois heures de l'après-midi" which is "three hours after mid-day."
> In German, one would say, "dreizehn heures" at 3:00 PM. That is "thirteen
> hours".
>
> Note that all three use the word "hours" instead of "o'clock."
>
> Respectfully,
> ~~~ 0;-Dan
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Daniel M. St.André <dan.st.andre at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:28 PM
> Subject: re: Jovie Rev 0.6 (KDE 4.11) from Linux Mint-16 KDE edition
> To: Jeremy Whiting <jpwhiting at kde.org>, Gary Cramlitt
> <garycramlitt at comcast.net>
>
>
> Colleagues,
>      I run Jovie on my workstation to speak the time at the top of each
> hour. In addition, I have my time configured for 24-hour time. I write not
> knowing if this is a clock app or speech app issue.
>
> The Symptom:
>      When speaking times in the afternoon, I get announcements like, "it is
> thirteen o'clock" or "it is twenty-two o'clock."  Morning times are also,
> "it is nine o'clock" and so on.  The former sound strange while the latter
> sound fine.  However, using 24-hour time, one does not speak "o'clock" for
> any time regardless of morning or afternoon.
>
>     I suspect that Jovie gets a text string from the desktop widget and
> simply speaks what it receives.  If that is the case, I must track down
> those folks and write to them.
>
> Respectfully,
> ~~~ 0;-Dan
>
>
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