Cursorsors: where?

Martin Gräßlin mgraesslin at kde.org
Thu Apr 24 08:06:15 UTC 2014


On Thursday 24 April 2014 09:38:20 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
> On Thursday 24 April 2014 07.28.28 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > On Wednesday 23 April 2014 23:10:41 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 23 April 2014 13:58:02 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 23 April 2014 13:53:56 David Edmundson wrote:
> > > > > Right now we have an oxygen repo full of all different things
> > > > > (icons,
> > > > > window decoration, qstyle)
> > > > > 
> > > > > We can make a Breeze repo full of all these new different things.
> > > > 
> > > > I think that's the best approach to it. We will hopefully soon see
> > > > stuff
> > > > like window decoration and widget style and so on. Let's move it
> > > > together
> > > > like with Oxygen.
> > > 
> > > Currently, both a widget theme and a windeco are in the making.
> > > However, neither of them are C++ at the moment. There is a quite well-
> > > progressing QtQuickControls style, as well as an accompanying QtCurve
> > > preset, and several quite nice windeco themes (currently Aurorae-based).
> > > All of them still need polishing, though.
> > > So the next step after the design is done would be to make a C++ widget
> > > theme based on the design of the QtQuickControls style, and after the
> > > Plasma team has decided which windeco should be the default, a C++
> > > windeco
> > > based on that, right?
> > 
> > At least for windeco we will need a C++ implementation as Aurorae is not
> > suited as a default component.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Martin
> 
> Which of course leaves us in the same predicament as last time - where do we
> find C++ programmers to finish this?

we will need to find the C++ programmers, Aurorae is unsuited as a default. I 
rather ship something which doesn't look good, than reading a million times 
how slow Plasma Next is. The rendering of the window decoration is very 
expensive and with the Qt 5 transition it unfortunately became worse for 
Aurorae.

Yes it can mean lost chances for the design, but shipping an Aurorae theme as 
default would also mean lost chances in the not repeating 4.0 mistakes. We are 
caught between a rock and a hard place, here.

I can only repeat that performance was never a design goal of Aurorae and from 
the first day when I started working on it, it was obvious to me that Aurorae 
shall never be used for a default decoration. I'm quite certain I pointed that 
out before work started on the Aurorae theme ;-)

Cheers
Martin
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