kill the systray?

[Matthias Klumpp]

GNOME embeds the tray Icons in it's norification area, supporting xembed
right now. In future, they want a different notification system, which is
used exclusively (design docs are available, i will look them up at home)
However, I assume GTK+ will have a systray implementation (at least for
Xfce), so it makes much sense to discuss post-x systray now and create a
Freedesktop document for it - maybe just use DBusmenu...
Cheers,
Matthias
(Sorry for the not-inline reply, sent from my phone)
Am 24.09.2013 09:51 schrieb "Martin Graesslin" <mgraesslin at kde.org>:

> On Tuesday 24 September 2013 18:04:55 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > * Qt5 doesn't seem to have the API we need to do our xembed tricks
> > > anymore,
> > >
> > >   especially QX11EmbedContainer is gone.
> >
> > it’s missing more than gone; i’ve heard several times that someone or
> > another was working on it.
> which wouldn't be in time for Qt 5.2 anymore. So earliest is Qt 5.3 which
> might be too late for our needs.
> >
> > >   If we even get it to work under
> > >
> > > X11, it seems entirely futile to expect this to be feasible in a
> Wayland
> > > world.
> >
> > agreed ...
> well for supporting legacy applications it would be needed in the same way
> as
> for supporting GTK+ application on X11.
>
> > > When I asked Martin if he knew a way to do the xembed, he replied
> (being
> > > Martin ;)) asking if we can just kill it and quoted starwars. I wonder:
> > > Can
> > > we kill it yet?
> >
> > if Gtk+ supported status notifiers natively, then i’d say “yes”. it
> doesn’t,
> > so anyone who uses a Gtk+ application with a system tray icon will
> suddenly
> > not be able to access it. i’m pretty sure that’s going to cause
>  problems.
> what's the status of the Ubuntu implementation? Is it that an app has to
> explicitly link against it?
> >
> > as the GNOME devs are currently porting to Wayland as well, now would be
> a
> > good time to find out what they plan to do with their xembed system tray.
> I just tried to find some information on how they are using it and somehow
> I'm
> not sure whether the xembed systray is available at all in GNOME...
> >
> > oh, and the tasks widget ought  to gain support for application based
> status
> > notifiers (so that the system tray can opt out of them) as well as
> > skiplists. what i’d really like to see is this become a part of the
> wayland
> > specific support that  we can build around the “every window has an
> > associated .desktop file” thing. Martin?
> sounds good to me.
>
> Cheers
> Martin
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