[kde-artists] New start sound - Discussion.

[Djuro Drljaca]

Hello,

from what I remember (I restart the PC rarely and speakers are not always
on when it logs in) there are also performance issues with playing the
login sound. It has happened a lot of times that sound playback was really
weird/choppy during login. This could be due to the sound card driver or
(most probably) pulse audio.

So I can understand where the idea to remove login sound comes from ... but
this mostly a workaround of the actual problem(s) and not a proper
solution...

Regards,
Djuro Drljaca


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo at kde.org> wrote:

> On Thursday, May 30, 2013 09:13:37 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > I don't think it's a good idea to disable login sounds.
> > Sure, they have no practical use, but they are a very important part of
> > sound branding (
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_trademark#Sound_branding ). That's
> why
>
> The reasons for having turned off the login sound are:
>
> * It often starts at an unpredictable time due to the mechanics of the
> startup
> procedure and the wonder that is free software audio; this is only going to
> become worse as we move to increasingly parallelized startup where
> dependencies are determined at runtime by access (the systemd model, e.g.)
>
> * The sounds for KDE are not well integrated into the branding. That the
> log
> in/out sounds are extremely long does not help.
>
> * They is no realistic benefit to our branding from the sound due to low
> public
> usage (as you noted in your own email)
>
> * They are configurable .. which destroys hope of branding
>
> * They are annoying as hell (regardless of platform). We've opted for
> elegance
> for the user rather than attempts to inject our brand into the environment.
>
> Things that could improve the above and which would cause at least me to
> re-
> assess this decision:
>
> * Integrate the startup sound with either the splash screen or the session
> manager (e.g. ksmserver), skip the knotification thing path altogether and
> ensure the sound is played via a low-(enough-)latency mechanism. This would
> remove some of the awkwardness of the current sound timing.
>
> * Produce a sound that is actually memorable, meshes with the KDE branding
> goals (e.g. projection of elegance) and is no more than a couple seconds
> long.
> A simple, calm, recognizable sound that lasts ~1 second would be great
> imho.
>
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> Aaron J. Seigo
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