Review Request: declarative plasmoid object, containment access

[Greg T]

> On Sept. 7, 2012, 9:43 a.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > exposing the containment to all plasmoids is not a good idea. one of the main benefits of these QML/JS plasmoids is that they are far more sandboxed from the rest of the system. this also invites plasmoids to think they know how the shell works, which they can't -> it could just as easily be plasma-netbook ad plasma-desktop.
> > 
> > let's back up and look at the problem from the starting point: the goal is to put an entry in a context menu that people can select which adds an icon for that application to the panel or "the" desktop (whatever that means given multiple screens, per virtual desktop views, etc.)
> > 
> > first question: do we really need this exact feature? is drag and drop good enough? are there other ways we could offer? (e.g. in the "Add widgets" UI could there be a way to add applications as well?)
> > 
> > second question: if this is really, really required can it be done without opening access to Containment? e.g. could it be done using a Plasma::Service which does the right thing for the given shell?
> > 
> > also, i don't think missing this feature should stand in the way of the QML version replacing the C++ version in master. we need to get this merged as soon as possible so people can start using it and we can start improving problems that crop up.
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> Greg T wrote:
>     Hi Aaron,
>     
>     1. I really think as long as we support a context menu, we must also provide those 2 'add to xxx' entrys. Probably our users would be rather pissed off and call it a regression, if we drop them in kickoff-qml/KDE 4.10.
>     
>     2. agreed, some kind of abstraction would be a great, no idea how to implement that though. You can really do a lot of creepy things with a containment...
>     
>     3. I'm ok with that, but I never merged a feature branch into master before. Can you give me some hints how to do that? It's quite a bunch of code.
>     
>     Actually mgraesslin created this widget, so maybe we should ask him for his opinion...
> 
> Marco Martin wrote:
>     idea:
>     1) create a dataengine called org.kde.appshortcuts or something like that every source would represent a shortcut (even if just the desktop file name)
>     2) it has a service to add or remove shortcuts
>     3) the taskbar is connected to that engine and uses it for its own shortcuts
>     
>     would mean that:
>     * would add shortcuts in the taskbar (and any other plasmoid connected to that) rather than directly the panel, so would need at least one connected to work
>     * add to desktop is not supported anymore and i think is good, too many assumption on what desktop it is and where it is ;)

interesting, but for clarification: the idea is to add those "app shortcuts" as "launchers" to the task manager?

But lets get kickoff into master before working on this topic :)


- Greg


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On Sept. 7, 2012, 10:58 a.m., Greg T wrote:
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> (Updated Sept. 7, 2012, 10:58 a.m.)
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> Review request for Plasma and Martin Gräßlin.
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> Description
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> Heya,
> I need access to the containment in a qml plasmoid with c++ extensions. Actually I'm using that to add launcher items from the new kickoff-qml to the desktop/panel. Thats one of the last missing features of declarative kickoff, basically it would be ready now to replace the c++ version...
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> Well, certainly you know what I want to achieve, so feel free to suggest better alternatives :)
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> Diffs
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>   plasma/scriptengines/javascript/plasmoid/appletinterface.h 4f1201b 
>   plasma/scriptengines/javascript/plasmoid/appletinterface.cpp 75dc2f0 
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> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106365/diff/
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> Testing
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> Thanks,
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> Greg T
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