Introducing Homerun

[Nuno Pinheiro]

A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 15:29:37 Alex Fiestas escreveu:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:41:24 Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > > Most users regularly use less than a dozen applications, and same idea
> > > can
> > > probably be applied to activities I think (it is ok to keep an activity
> > > I
> > > created 9month ago for a travel I did to Rome, it is not ok to have it
> > > in
> > > the interface every time I want to change activity).
> > > 
> > > In another topic, something I specially like from homerun is its "Show
> > > all
> > > apps" view:
> > > http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/13/plasma-desktopb11622.png
> > 
> > well, the first thing that comes to my mind looking at that is... where is
> > waldo? :p
> 
> Exactly the same feeling with kickoff or tree based menus, the difference is
> that by having everything into the same place you don't have to make
> "attempts" on knowing in which page waldo is xD

so you are comparing bad with worse... not to defend kickoff that traditionaly 
I hate, but at least in kickoff i find waldo in the area that stores waldo like 
apps..

but the main problem is.. they bowth suck, can i just ask "were is waldo?" 
bummm done...  

> 
> > why? several reasons, not all of them solvable:
> > * question of quantity: when more than a given number of items is shown at
> > the same time, as already explained the brain goes in linear scan mode
> > 
> > * everything is at the same importance: there are tons of entries, some
> > may
> > be very important (browser, calligra..) and some rarely needed, if ever
> > (amor... srsly? :P)
> > 
> > * icons are not designed to be presented in huge quantity: explicit
> > guideline of oxygen: application icons don't have much common style that
> > recreases the visual noise when shown in a grid (as opposed to for
> > instance
> > mimetypes)
> > 
> > This suggests there are two separate problems:
> > 1) we have a ton of stuff right now that gets listed as applications that
> > probably shouldn't even be there or, we should at least have a way to tell
> > apart core applications from "small littering stuff"
> > 
> > 2) a view that lists stuff should always try to show not much stuff at
> > once, maybe be resizable, but be small (in resulting centimiters on
> > screen, not pixels) by default for the two reasons of distance travelled
> > by mouse and being able to get the whole list as a single glance
> > 
> > > It made me realize that right now with kickoff we are adding a huge
> > > complexity to find (with the mouse) what you are looking for because you
> > > not only have to remember the icon or the name, but you also have to
> > > remember the category.
> > 
> > yep, hate representations in trees ;)
> > i'm usually for a single level more "tagging" approach, but by default we
> > should try to produce lists fairly small
> 
> Well you know (and you can see in the bottom of that screenshot) that I use
> a dock style thingy so I have a set of 12 app's mostly always opened so I
> hardly use this menu (or krunner for that matter).
> 
> There are only a few times where I have to use something else to launch
> applications:
> 
> -I need to execute an already installed app but barelly used
> 	-Calligra -- new document
> 	-LibreOffice -- new document
> 	-systemsettings -- change a setting
> -I need to execute a recently installed app (most package installers allow
> you to execute the app just after installing it)
> -Want to set an app as a "launcher" because I have started to use it a lot
> 
> From the mentioned above, I did the "recently installed" a week ago for
> Steam, and past that I can't remember the last time I executed something
> that was not in my favorie list (dock).
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